If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

More personal insults

More personal insults.

SJD...

Even my 10 yr old niece knows that when someone resorts to insults instead of answering the question, it means that they have no answer to your question, and furthermore realise it is the truth what you are saying which strikes a raw nerve with them...

Jagefury falls in this category.......

Dont bother replying to him, he wont answer any questions, because he cant, he thereffore will just reply with insults..........

Yeah, I know he can't answer any questions he is just confused like the rest of them. Here we are trying to help them but because they are stubborn and too confused they will not listen. They will have to experience some miracle in their lives for them to start believing, talking to them is a difficult task. 

If I ask him or any other non believer what evidence do you have that God doesn't exist, they cannot give any valid answer.

Whereas if they ask me or any other believer what evidence do we have that God exist, we can give them an abundance of evidences like nature (the fine tuning of the cosmos which points to an intelligent designer, a Creator), philosophical reasons, archaeological findings (which authenticates many of the passages in the bible), man, the Holy Bible (which is the Word of God), the life and ministry, the miracles and the resurrection of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ but they will not open their hearts and minds to the truth.

They live their lives in the darkness and when the time comes to account for their lives they will be unprepared and totally shocked and dismayed come Judgment Day.

"Consider the simplest statement of scientific fact: Water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. This seems as value-free an utterance as human beings ever make.

But what do we do when someone doubts the truth of this proposition? Ok, all we can do is appeal to scientific values. The value of understanding the world. The value of evidence. The value of logical consistency. What if someone says, “Well, that’s not how I choose to think about water. Ok, I’m Biblical chemist, and I read in Genesis 1 that God created water before he created light. So I take that to mean that there were no stars. So there were no stars to fuse hydrogen and helium into heavier elements like oxygen; therefore there was no oxygen to put in the water, so either God created, either water has no oxygen, or God created special oxygen to put in the water—but I don’t think he would do that, because that would be Biblically inelegant.”

Ok, what can we say to such a person?  All we can do is appeal to scientific values. And if he doesn’t share those values, the conversation is over. If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?"

Sam Harris directly talking to Rostos and his buddies.

Vanzack you are, sadly, correct. Good sumation.

For medical purposes it is ok, however it is not ok for recreational or for the occult uses.

In the holy bible the book of Galatians 5:19-21 says: The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery, idolatry and witchcraft (which includes the use of drugs); hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

The non-medical recreational use of drugs is considered one of the acts of a sinful nature. Witchcraft or sorcery refers to the use of drugs. The Apostle Paul calls witchcraft associated with drug use a sin. Using drugs to get a high or to tap into the occult are acts of a sinful nature where users demonstrate their depraved and carnal nature.

The bible isnt a science textbook..Never has claimed to be.

You want to talk about evidence?

What evidence does a blind person have that the sky is blue and the grass is green?

I am sure Dr Francis Collins OWNER of theworld  genome project which is doing wonderful things for cures of diseases would agree with you.......

He wasnt raised a Christian and ONLY became one when he became a DR / Scientist.

And just like I posted originally, a non-logical person trying to create a logical debate.  A person who discounts evidence trying to start an evidenciary debate.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Read this again:

Ok, what can we say to such a person? All we can do is appeal to scientific values. And if he doesn’t share those values, the conversation is over. If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?"

Rostos - you are such a silly person.

What it must be like to live in fear every day of the boogey man.  How insecure must you be to base your whole life on something that has no basis - simply out of the fear of made up consequences.  What must it take to ignore all evidence and facts in favor of superstitions and rituals.

It is really silly.