Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?
Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points.
I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff.
This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
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Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?
Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points.
I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff.
This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points. I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff. This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
Basically what I was getting at through my overly verbose post... Feels like the passiest pass of them all
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points. I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff. This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
Basically what I was getting at through my overly verbose post... Feels like the passiest pass of them all
I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said...
Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams.
I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
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I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said...
Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams.
I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said... Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams. I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
Why are you even talking about not sure if they can blowout... That is not part of this line so why is it part of the discussion...
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Quote Originally Posted by TheG0at:
I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said... Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams. I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
Why are you even talking about not sure if they can blowout... That is not part of this line so why is it part of the discussion...
Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points. I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff. This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
Competent QB? Dude, he is a 20 year old rookie in his 3rd start. He had a year and change as a college starter and turned the ball over a ton. He's not Joe freakin' Namath. Yet. He's not even Broadway Chad Pennington. Stronger arm. Higher ceiling but he's still a rookie.
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points. I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff. This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
Competent QB? Dude, he is a 20 year old rookie in his 3rd start. He had a year and change as a college starter and turned the ball over a ton. He's not Joe freakin' Namath. Yet. He's not even Broadway Chad Pennington. Stronger arm. Higher ceiling but he's still a rookie.
Pap, I think our difference of opinion comes from a difference in methodology. You're living in the numbers. "You're laying points with this team?" "And it's juiced to boot?" "...but 70% of the public..."
I cap X's and O's, personnel, match-ups, and situations. I'm not worried about last season or the season before. I see the better team, better defense, game-manager QB, at home on a short week vs. a rookie QB, two starts, on the road on a short week. Against a defense that can get after the QB and cause turnovers. On of the biggest factors in oddsmaking is public perception and if not for this being the Browns, and the weekend warrior bettors drinking the Sam Darnold Jet kool-aid, this number would be higher.
I notice the way you bet fighting. You find value plays and bet in volume. And it works. You're profitable. You don't always seem to break down the fights and bet who you think is the best fighter. You find value spots, win some, lose some...you barely have to go over .500 to be profitable because of the value in the picks. It's kind of genius for fighting. I don't like it for football though.
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Pap, I think our difference of opinion comes from a difference in methodology. You're living in the numbers. "You're laying points with this team?" "And it's juiced to boot?" "...but 70% of the public..."
I cap X's and O's, personnel, match-ups, and situations. I'm not worried about last season or the season before. I see the better team, better defense, game-manager QB, at home on a short week vs. a rookie QB, two starts, on the road on a short week. Against a defense that can get after the QB and cause turnovers. On of the biggest factors in oddsmaking is public perception and if not for this being the Browns, and the weekend warrior bettors drinking the Sam Darnold Jet kool-aid, this number would be higher.
I notice the way you bet fighting. You find value plays and bet in volume. And it works. You're profitable. You don't always seem to break down the fights and bet who you think is the best fighter. You find value spots, win some, lose some...you barely have to go over .500 to be profitable because of the value in the picks. It's kind of genius for fighting. I don't like it for football though.
I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said... Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams. I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
Why are you even talking about not sure if they can blowout... That is not part of this line so why is it part of the discussion...
because OP Scalibrine said this is a no brainer blowout win for Cleveland...
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Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:
Quote Originally Posted by TheG0at:
I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said... Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams. I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
Why are you even talking about not sure if they can blowout... That is not part of this line so why is it part of the discussion...
because OP Scalibrine said this is a no brainer blowout win for Cleveland...
Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?
Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points.
I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff.
This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
Nobody is laying juice.
I posted at -110.
You can’t come back in the thread and talk about current juice when the line is going up to 3.5, making my -3 -110 a bargain, which I always said it was.
Good post Titus. Interesting read.
Thank you GOAT. I LOVE Jet fans being honest and fading their team when appropriate. It’s honest capping over adamant team homerism.
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Not worried whatsoever that almost 70% of the action is on a team giving 3 points at home?
Most of the books are even making you pay at least -120 for -3. Just insane people are willing to lay points with this team and then lay juice on top of those points.
I could understand laying 3 against the Bills or Cardinals (The only two teams worse than the Browns with Tyrod Taylor), but not against a team coming off of a loss with a competent QB and a good coaching staff.
This line is BEGGING you to lay the 3 and the juice. Books are overjoyed with the action right now.
Nobody is laying juice.
I posted at -110.
You can’t come back in the thread and talk about current juice when the line is going up to 3.5, making my -3 -110 a bargain, which I always said it was.
Good post Titus. Interesting read.
Thank you GOAT. I LOVE Jet fans being honest and fading their team when appropriate. It’s honest capping over adamant team homerism.
Jets ml is play, browns just lost gordon, you going to lay -3 on team who just replaced kicker, and is 0-17 last 17 games, jets have solid qb and D
He is solid. A solid rookie. Good yards per game so far. Good YPC/YPA, which says a lot for a rookie QB but he has had two starts and has as many INTs as TDs.
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Quote Originally Posted by Axtionreed4:
Jets ml is play, browns just lost gordon, you going to lay -3 on team who just replaced kicker, and is 0-17 last 17 games, jets have solid qb and D
He is solid. A solid rookie. Good yards per game so far. Good YPC/YPA, which says a lot for a rookie QB but he has had two starts and has as many INTs as TDs.
Jets win this rather easily. One of the first things we learn in the betting world...NEVER EVER bet against a streak. Winning streak, losing streak it doesn't matter.......ride the wave or find another game.
GL JETS backers
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Jets win this rather easily. One of the first things we learn in the betting world...NEVER EVER bet against a streak. Winning streak, losing streak it doesn't matter.......ride the wave or find another game.
Jets win this rather easily. One of the first things we learn in the betting world...NEVER EVER bet against a streak. Winning streak, losing streak it doesn't matter.......ride the wave or find another game.
GL JETS backers
I would promote the EXACT opposite of this to those who’d lend me an ear.
Betting on teams during winning streaks forces you to pay the highest premium as everyone clamors on the favorite. Look for major dog value in those situations.
Betting on teams to break a losing streaks allows you to get the lowest lines possible UNTIL that streak will clealry come to an end, as is the case here and the public knows it, possibly turning a dog into a still bettable favorite.
This strategy has made me a mountain of money. Everest size....
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Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:
Jets win this rather easily. One of the first things we learn in the betting world...NEVER EVER bet against a streak. Winning streak, losing streak it doesn't matter.......ride the wave or find another game.
GL JETS backers
I would promote the EXACT opposite of this to those who’d lend me an ear.
Betting on teams during winning streaks forces you to pay the highest premium as everyone clamors on the favorite. Look for major dog value in those situations.
Betting on teams to break a losing streaks allows you to get the lowest lines possible UNTIL that streak will clealry come to an end, as is the case here and the public knows it, possibly turning a dog into a still bettable favorite.
This strategy has made me a mountain of money. Everest size....
I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said...
Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams.
I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
Jets fans are usually blind to their own team. They didn't think they'd win in Detroit and then thought they'd win vs Dolphins. Now, they don't think they'll beat the Browns. Typical Jets fans. I was on the Jets week 1, was on the Dolphins week 2, and back to the Jets week 3.
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Quote Originally Posted by TheG0at:
I'm a huge huge huge Jet fan. Diehard. I thought they would win the Miami game on sunday. Atleast look a lot better than they did but the reality is this is still a rebuilding team. The defense is very surprisingly good this far. But make no mistake, they are not a .500 team. I loved that opener against the Lions but I feel like it's more the Lions being bad that game then the Jets being that good. With that said...
Jets are playing 3 games in 11 days. That's too much for a sub .500 team with a rookie QB to handle. Browns D destroyed big ben and hung in there vs the saints at NO... they were a good kicker a way from being 2-0 vs 2 playoff caliber teams.
I LIKE THE BROWNS THIS GAME. Not sure if they have the offense vs the Jets above average D to really blow them out but if I had to choose I would take the Browns here. Darnold has too much to process in such a short week vs a aggressive D.
Jets fans are usually blind to their own team. They didn't think they'd win in Detroit and then thought they'd win vs Dolphins. Now, they don't think they'll beat the Browns. Typical Jets fans. I was on the Jets week 1, was on the Dolphins week 2, and back to the Jets week 3.
Competent QB? Dude, he is a 20 year old rookie in his 3rd start. He had a year and change as a college starter and turned the ball over a ton. He's not Joe freakin' Namath. Yet. He's not even Broadway Chad Pennington. Stronger arm. Higher ceiling but he's still a rookie.
Sorry, but I watch these games with my own eyes and anyone that has actually watched the Jets both games realize that Darnold is more than competent, regardless of his age. That was also his first game at home. Now, they don't have to travel on short week, and he will only get more confident as the season progresses. (I am by no means a Jets fan)
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Competent QB? Dude, he is a 20 year old rookie in his 3rd start. He had a year and change as a college starter and turned the ball over a ton. He's not Joe freakin' Namath. Yet. He's not even Broadway Chad Pennington. Stronger arm. Higher ceiling but he's still a rookie.
Sorry, but I watch these games with my own eyes and anyone that has actually watched the Jets both games realize that Darnold is more than competent, regardless of his age. That was also his first game at home. Now, they don't have to travel on short week, and he will only get more confident as the season progresses. (I am by no means a Jets fan)
Sorry, but I watch these games with my own eyes and anyone that has actually watched the Jets both games realize that Darnold is more than competent, regardless of his age. That was also his first game at home. Now, they don't have to travel on short week, and he will only get more confident as the season progresses. (I am by no means a Jets fan)
*They are traveling, my bad, but Browns still had to come back from New Orleans as well.
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Sorry, but I watch these games with my own eyes and anyone that has actually watched the Jets both games realize that Darnold is more than competent, regardless of his age. That was also his first game at home. Now, they don't have to travel on short week, and he will only get more confident as the season progresses. (I am by no means a Jets fan)
*They are traveling, my bad, but Browns still had to come back from New Orleans as well.
You can’t come back in the thread and talk about current juice when the line is going up to 3.5, making my -3 -110 a bargain, which I always said it was.
Good post Titus. Interesting read.
Thank you GOAT. I LOVE Jet fans being honest and fading their team when appropriate. It’s honest capping over adamant team homerism.
You posted it at -110, but it's not offered -110 anywhere at the moment, so kind of irrelevant, no? I'm talking about for the person that is coming in your thread right now to find a wager to place. At the moment, you cannot get -110.
So, does this mean you are telling people not to bet the Browns -3 -120?
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
Nobody is laying juice.
I posted at -110.
You can’t come back in the thread and talk about current juice when the line is going up to 3.5, making my -3 -110 a bargain, which I always said it was.
Good post Titus. Interesting read.
Thank you GOAT. I LOVE Jet fans being honest and fading their team when appropriate. It’s honest capping over adamant team homerism.
You posted it at -110, but it's not offered -110 anywhere at the moment, so kind of irrelevant, no? I'm talking about for the person that is coming in your thread right now to find a wager to place. At the moment, you cannot get -110.
So, does this mean you are telling people not to bet the Browns -3 -120?
Competent QB? Dude, he is a 20 year old rookie in his 3rd start. He had a year and change as a college starter and turned the ball over a ton. He's not Joe freakin' Namath. Yet. He's not even Broadway Chad Pennington. Stronger arm. Higher ceiling but he's still a rookie.
Sorry, but I watch these games with my own eyes and anyone that has actually watched the Jets both games realize that Darnold is more than competent, regardless of his age. That was also his first game at home. Now, they don't have to travel on short week, and he will only get more confident as the season progresses. (I am by no means a Jets fan)
Sorry for what? I've watched every one of Sam Darnold's pro games, all whopping two, and every one of his college games with the exception of maybe one. So unless you've been watching this kid since high school, the whole, "I actually watch these games with my own eyes.." crap is really paper thin. Do you really think you're the only one on a gambling site, in a football forum, that actually tunes in to the games?
Look, I like Darnold but he is a rookie QB, two games under his belt, who was turnover prone in college and has three picks so far this year. He on the road, against a good D, on a short week. The home crowd will be pumped after two near-misses against traditionally good teams. Now, what about that is false?
What do you counter with? Sam Darnold, the rookie, is good? The Browns haven't won? Are they just never gonna win again? That is ridiculous capping.
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Competent QB? Dude, he is a 20 year old rookie in his 3rd start. He had a year and change as a college starter and turned the ball over a ton. He's not Joe freakin' Namath. Yet. He's not even Broadway Chad Pennington. Stronger arm. Higher ceiling but he's still a rookie.
Sorry, but I watch these games with my own eyes and anyone that has actually watched the Jets both games realize that Darnold is more than competent, regardless of his age. That was also his first game at home. Now, they don't have to travel on short week, and he will only get more confident as the season progresses. (I am by no means a Jets fan)
Sorry for what? I've watched every one of Sam Darnold's pro games, all whopping two, and every one of his college games with the exception of maybe one. So unless you've been watching this kid since high school, the whole, "I actually watch these games with my own eyes.." crap is really paper thin. Do you really think you're the only one on a gambling site, in a football forum, that actually tunes in to the games?
Look, I like Darnold but he is a rookie QB, two games under his belt, who was turnover prone in college and has three picks so far this year. He on the road, against a good D, on a short week. The home crowd will be pumped after two near-misses against traditionally good teams. Now, what about that is false?
What do you counter with? Sam Darnold, the rookie, is good? The Browns haven't won? Are they just never gonna win again? That is ridiculous capping.
That’s up to them to bet it at -120 if they want. If anything you touting it’s at -120 shows window of the value I offered when it was -110. A favor to the community posting early.
And Darnold being a competent QB is a given. That’s already in tha line.
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That’s up to them to bet it at -120 if they want. If anything you touting it’s at -120 shows window of the value I offered when it was -110. A favor to the community posting early.
And Darnold being a competent QB is a given. That’s already in tha line.
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