JETS @ CLEVELAND: I was giddy a couple days ago about this team. That has ended.

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Are your sure about this pick scal...seems to easy?

Maybe we falling into a trap?

How confident are you on this play ?

Thnx

browns are the play. Dolphins beat the Jets up, short week, on the road, Cleveland needs to show-out in front of the home crowd against a bad Jets team. Darnold will give the ball away again because he is aturnover machine. Browns defense has playmakers. The drunk distraction is gone to the Patriots. Hue Jackson is moron, but Todd Bowles is only slight less of one, two low-IQ coaches going at it - I would ride with home Browns in a bit of a redemptive spot. 

I can get the Browns -6.5 @ +137..is this a worthwhile play?

What makes either of them "low-IQ"?

Probably poor genetics, lack of nutrition during formative years, prone to poor decisionmaking, deer-in-head-light look during games, Huey would have been fired a long time ago had he not been black and Bowles is in way over his head as well. But Huey takes this one easy Thursday. 

Browns auctually got the better defense - only 2 bets here - either jets ML or under - Cleveland find ways to lose - 1 win in 3 season speaks volume/ Goodluck to everyone 

So you can't point to anything football related that points to them being "low-IQ"? The best you have is "deer-in-headlight look", and then a comment about race. Really just verbal diarrhea and conjecture. The jury is still out on Bowles and Jackson but let's wait to see what happens before making ridiculous claims based on nothing.

A loud crowd getting in the mind of a young quarterback, making it hard for him to hear calls in his headet? That's garbage? Do you even watch football. Have you ever been to a pro game or do you just quote football outsiders?

And Tyrod, traditionally, in a game manager QB that doesn't turn the ball over. Sam Darnold had turnover issues even in college.

Is this how you cap? Go back two games, then look at footballoutsiders.com? Throw in some pretentious comments on covers and call it a day?

Like i've said from the beginning, the under is my main pick. I really love both of these defenses and I trust neither offense. With that said, as far as picking a side, given all the rest of the factors, I fade the rookie QB on the road in a short week. I don't care how good he is. And win or lose, I sleep well with my decision. All this talk about "...but it's the Browns... ...but Darnold..." is just hyperbole to me.

Is there a prop bet for a tie? With how sorry both offenses are I wouldn't be surprised.

You guys who think Clevland -3 is the best play ever are such good cappers. Wowww

yea Jets are so bad. Beating the Jaquars last year must mean the Jets suck. Yea. 

Week 9 last year: The Jets Defense forced 3 turnovers against Taylor and the Bills. 

This Thursday: I can see Taylor getting sacked and fumbling ball and the Jets Defense scoring a Touchdown. 

After seeing that MIA indeed has the number 1 defense in the league followed by the Jets, this is a no brainer.  Darnold had chances to win that MIA game.  That Herndon TE really fucked Darnold a few times plus that pick in the redzone stung.   Still Greg Williams is blitz happy and Darnold has been getting blitzed on 20% of the snaps he takes.  Might be an ugly game for him.  He made mistakes presnap against the Fins so Williams will try and confuse him again.   I really wish they brought in another WR or at least force the ball to Prior more than a handful of times.

Either way Im rolling with Jets covering if not winning outright.  It seems sharp money is on Browns side.