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    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 7:25 PM ET #3551

    Jessica Berg Wilson of Seattle Washington won that lottery, dead at age 37 from J&J vaccine. 13 year old boy in Saginaw County MI won that lottery too.

    Twitter said her obit was misleading just like The American Heart Association website could be harmful for having a printed study on heart inflammation from vaccine.

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    Jessica Berg Wilson of Seattle Washington won that lottery, dead at age 37 from J&J vaccine. 13 year old boy in Saginaw County MI won that lottery too.

    Twitter said her obit was misleading just like The American Heart Association website could be harmful for having a printed study on heart inflammation from vaccine.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 7:31 PM ET #3552

    Too bad the U.S. does not have an 88% vaccination rate like Portugal. They currently have the equivalent of 118,000 US cases a day!

    And "experts" say vaccination will get us out of the pandemic.

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    Too bad the U.S. does not have an 88% vaccination rate like Portugal. They currently have the equivalent of 118,000 US cases a day!

    And "experts" say vaccination will get us out of the pandemic.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2021 - 8:01 PM ET #3553

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Participants who received a booster at least 5 months after a second dose of BNT162b2 had 90% lower mortality due to Covid-19 than participants who did not receive a booster.--the New England Journal of Medicine

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115624

    *R. Arbel, et. el., Israel. 

    90% of booster efficacy is very encouraging,

    we have the tools to fight this pandemic.

    People need to take the booster shots to their protections.  

     

    I'll get the booster.   I hope a high rate of efficacy will persist, even inspite of the new variants.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Participants who received a booster at least 5 months after a second dose of BNT162b2 had 90% lower mortality due to Covid-19 than participants who did not receive a booster.--the New England Journal of Medicine

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115624

    *R. Arbel, et. el., Israel. 

    90% of booster efficacy is very encouraging,

    we have the tools to fight this pandemic.

    People need to take the booster shots to their protections.  

     

    I'll get the booster.   I hope a high rate of efficacy will persist, even inspite of the new variants.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2021 - 12:51 AM ET #3554

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Participants who received a booster at least 5 months after a second dose of BNT162b2 had 90% lower mortality due to Covid-19 than participants who did not receive a booster.--the New England Journal of Medicine https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115624 *R. Arbel, et. el., Israel.  90% of booster efficacy is very encouraging, we have the tools to fight this pandemic. People need to take the booster shots to their protections.     I'll get the booster.   I hope a high rate of efficacy will persist, even inspite of the new variants.

    I like that choice, happy holidays and stay healthy! clover

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Participants who received a booster at least 5 months after a second dose of BNT162b2 had 90% lower mortality due to Covid-19 than participants who did not receive a booster.--the New England Journal of Medicine https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115624 *R. Arbel, et. el., Israel.  90% of booster efficacy is very encouraging, we have the tools to fight this pandemic. People need to take the booster shots to their protections.     I'll get the booster.   I hope a high rate of efficacy will persist, even inspite of the new variants.

    I like that choice, happy holidays and stay healthy! clover

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2021 - 1:17 AM ET #3555

    In the state of Michigan,

    Unvaccinated Covid-19 Hospitalizations-December 2nd*

    76% of Overall Patients

    87% of Intensive Care Unit (ICU) Patients

    88% of Ventilation Patients

    *https://www.michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-29942_34762-573284--,00.html

    Unvaccinated Michiganders have accounted for the vast majority of severe Covid-19 cases, such as in ICU or need the assistance of a ventilator. 

    Masks and Vaccines are the precious and very effective and safe to fight this pandemic. We have the tools, people need to listen to the doctors NOT some cracked pipe ideology, conspiracy and politicians. 

      

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    In the state of Michigan,

    Unvaccinated Covid-19 Hospitalizations-December 2nd*

    76% of Overall Patients

    87% of Intensive Care Unit (ICU) Patients

    88% of Ventilation Patients

    *https://www.michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-29942_34762-573284--,00.html

    Unvaccinated Michiganders have accounted for the vast majority of severe Covid-19 cases, such as in ICU or need the assistance of a ventilator. 

    Masks and Vaccines are the precious and very effective and safe to fight this pandemic. We have the tools, people need to listen to the doctors NOT some cracked pipe ideology, conspiracy and politicians. 

      

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2021 - 2:12 AM ET #3556

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Twitter said  American Heart Association website could be harmful for having a printed study on heart inflammation from vaccine.

    Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Twitter said  American Heart Association website could be harmful for having a printed study on heart inflammation from vaccine.

    Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2021 - 8:47 AM ET #3557

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

      Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

    There are risks to practically everything medical related.  The question becomes to what degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

      Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

    There are risks to practically everything medical related.  The question becomes to what degree.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 5:23 PM ET #3558

    https://dailyangle.com/articles/fauci-admits-covid-vaccines-may-actually-make-people-worse

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    https://dailyangle.com/articles/fauci-admits-covid-vaccines-may-actually-make-people-worse

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 7:45 PM ET #3559

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Twitter said  American Heart Association website could be harmful for having a printed study on heart inflammation from vaccine. Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

    So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view.

    I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Twitter said  American Heart Association website could be harmful for having a printed study on heart inflammation from vaccine. Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

    So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view.

    I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 7:57 PM ET #3560

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    https://dailyangle.com/articles/fauci-admits-covid-vaccines-may-actually-make-people-worse

    I saw that video. Not really what he said. Taken out of context. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    https://dailyangle.com/articles/fauci-admits-covid-vaccines-may-actually-make-people-worse

    I saw that video. Not really what he said. Taken out of context. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 8:17 PM ET #3561

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content. 

    American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  

    But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

     

    thx for presenting those relevant facts thirdperson  thumbs_up

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content. 

    American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  

    But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

     

    thx for presenting those relevant facts thirdperson  thumbs_up

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 11:13 PM ET #3562

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
    https://dailyangle.com/articles/fauci-admits-covid-vaccines-may-actually-make-people-worse

     

     

    I saw that video.  Not really what he said.   Taken out of context.

    It is apparent after watching the full interview that this statement is correct. Fauci was taken out of context.
    But the previous post (which links to a partisan website) is misrepresenting the truth about what Dr. Fauci was saying.

    Headline, KREM2 article:

    "No,  Dr. Fauci  did not  tell Mark Zuckerberg the COVID-19 vaccine would make people worse"

    In March 2020, Mark Zuckerberg sat down with Dr. Anthony Fauci. A clip from the chat is now being shared online among multiple right-wing websites, taken completely out of context.

    https://www.krem.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/no-fauci-did-not-tell-mark-zuckerberg-covid-19-vaccine-would-make-people-worse/536-0a517215-02c6-4e53-b748-bf0a048acf9c

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
    https://dailyangle.com/articles/fauci-admits-covid-vaccines-may-actually-make-people-worse

     

     

    I saw that video.  Not really what he said.   Taken out of context.

    It is apparent after watching the full interview that this statement is correct. Fauci was taken out of context.
    But the previous post (which links to a partisan website) is misrepresenting the truth about what Dr. Fauci was saying.

    Headline, KREM2 article:

    "No,  Dr. Fauci  did not  tell Mark Zuckerberg the COVID-19 vaccine would make people worse"

    In March 2020, Mark Zuckerberg sat down with Dr. Anthony Fauci. A clip from the chat is now being shared online among multiple right-wing websites, taken completely out of context.

    https://www.krem.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/no-fauci-did-not-tell-mark-zuckerberg-covid-19-vaccine-would-make-people-worse/536-0a517215-02c6-4e53-b748-bf0a048acf9c

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 11:41 PM ET #3563

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

     

     

    So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view.

    I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

     

    Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols. And he is correct.   See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.

     

     

    So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view.

    I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

     

    Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols. And he is correct.   See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

     
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    Parents in the Eastport-South Manor Central School District are sent a warning letter. The letter warns parents on sudden cardiac arrest for grades K=12! Why are parents allowing their children to be injected with the poison of Pharma when their children have a better chance of being struck by lightning on a sunny day? Here is the letter.

     

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    Parents in the Eastport-South Manor Central School District are sent a warning letter. The letter warns parents on sudden cardiac arrest for grades K=12! Why are parents allowing their children to be injected with the poison of Pharma when their children have a better chance of being struck by lightning on a sunny day? Here is the letter.

     

     
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    https://www.covers.com/forum/nfl-betting-21/rams39-beckham-headlines-covid-19-list-as-nfl-outbreak-widens-103592637/6

    Not mine but good....

    Those vaxed get acquired antibodies & thus a

    sub-optimal immune system response because

    the innate immune response is turned OFF.

    In stark contrast, our natural antibodies aren't

    keyed onto any particular pathogen.

     

    Following intramuscular injection, an mRNA vax will

    reach the bloodstream and disseminate throughout

    the body, & remain entrapped in the circulation and

    get taken up by endothelial cells, particularly at sites

    of slow blood flow, i.e. in small vessels & capillaries.

     

    Thence, the wide range of recorded side effects

    in those previously healthy following injection of

    CV-19 gene-therapy that gets the body to make

    the surface spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2

    virus it uses to bind and fuse with human cells.

     

    / / /

    Thing is, disorders come on quickly after the shot,

    often so severe that platelet count rockets down.   

    W/ ITP, e.g., the healthier & younger than avg folk

    don't develop chronic forms of ITP.; & in fact about

    70% of people who develop ITP are women, —

    and yet the quite numerous, sudden cases in men,

    especially relatively young, healthy men, suggests

    a very recent trigger.

     

    Implicated in ITP is measles-mumps-rubella, in c.

    1 in 25k to 40k vaccine doses, but's been also

    associated w/ hepatitis A & B virus, human

    papilloma virus, varicella-zoster, polio,

    diphteria-tetanus-acellular pertussis (DTap),

    and even assoc. w/ pneumococcus vaccines.

     

    ITP = 3rd most common autoimmune condition

    (after Guillain Barre & rheumatoid arthritis), & ITP's

    known to occur following exposure to drugs with

    polyethylene glycol & PEG's used in both the

    Pfizer and the Moderna gene-based CV-vaccine

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    https://www.covers.com/forum/nfl-betting-21/rams39-beckham-headlines-covid-19-list-as-nfl-outbreak-widens-103592637/6

    Not mine but good....

    Those vaxed get acquired antibodies & thus a

    sub-optimal immune system response because

    the innate immune response is turned OFF.

    In stark contrast, our natural antibodies aren't

    keyed onto any particular pathogen.

     

    Following intramuscular injection, an mRNA vax will

    reach the bloodstream and disseminate throughout

    the body, & remain entrapped in the circulation and

    get taken up by endothelial cells, particularly at sites

    of slow blood flow, i.e. in small vessels & capillaries.

     

    Thence, the wide range of recorded side effects

    in those previously healthy following injection of

    CV-19 gene-therapy that gets the body to make

    the surface spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2

    virus it uses to bind and fuse with human cells.

     

    / / /

    Thing is, disorders come on quickly after the shot,

    often so severe that platelet count rockets down.   

    W/ ITP, e.g., the healthier & younger than avg folk

    don't develop chronic forms of ITP.; & in fact about

    70% of people who develop ITP are women, —

    and yet the quite numerous, sudden cases in men,

    especially relatively young, healthy men, suggests

    a very recent trigger.

     

    Implicated in ITP is measles-mumps-rubella, in c.

    1 in 25k to 40k vaccine doses, but's been also

    associated w/ hepatitis A & B virus, human

    papilloma virus, varicella-zoster, polio,

    diphteria-tetanus-acellular pertussis (DTap),

    and even assoc. w/ pneumococcus vaccines.

     

    ITP = 3rd most common autoimmune condition

    (after Guillain Barre & rheumatoid arthritis), & ITP's

    known to occur following exposure to drugs with

    polyethylene glycol & PEG's used in both the

    Pfizer and the Moderna gene-based CV-vaccine

     
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    Tho' too troubling's that there continues but

    scant scrutiny of possible causes of illness/death

    w/i these circumstances, markedly in the absence

    of postmortems exams,so the least Big Pharma

    can do is provide substantive responses to really

    really reasonable requests regarding related

    thrombocytopenia, endothelial injury, micro-thrombi

    stroke & acute idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura.

     

    An even more important starting point would be to

    enumerate and evaluate all deaths that occurred

    within 28 days of vax injection, and to compare the

    clinical pictures with those who've not been vaxed.      

     

    No firm, no org, nobody has ensured all COVID-19

    vaccines are supported by high quality trials that

    are sound and conducted in an ethical manner; else

    stop applying med products still in Phase 3 studies.      

    Tho' too troubling's that there continues but

    scant scrutiny of possible causes of illness/death

    w/i these circumstances, markedly in the absence

    of postmortems exams,so the least Big Pharma

    can do is provide substantive responses to really

    really reasonable requests regarding related

    thrombocytopenia, endothelial injury, micro-thrombi

    stroke & acute idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura.

     

    An even more important starting point would be to

    enumerate and evaluate all deaths that occurred

    within 28 days of vax injection, and to compare the

    clinical pictures with those who've not been vaxed.      

    No firm, no org, nobody has ensured all COVID-19

    vaccines are supported by high quality trials that

    are sound and conducted in an ethical manner, or

    stop applying med products still in Phase 3 studies.      

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    Tho' too troubling's that there continues but

    scant scrutiny of possible causes of illness/death

    w/i these circumstances, markedly in the absence

    of postmortems exams,so the least Big Pharma

    can do is provide substantive responses to really

    really reasonable requests regarding related

    thrombocytopenia, endothelial injury, micro-thrombi

    stroke & acute idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura.

     

    An even more important starting point would be to

    enumerate and evaluate all deaths that occurred

    within 28 days of vax injection, and to compare the

    clinical pictures with those who've not been vaxed.      

     

    No firm, no org, nobody has ensured all COVID-19

    vaccines are supported by high quality trials that

    are sound and conducted in an ethical manner; else

    stop applying med products still in Phase 3 studies.      

    Tho' too troubling's that there continues but

    scant scrutiny of possible causes of illness/death

    w/i these circumstances, markedly in the absence

    of postmortems exams,so the least Big Pharma

    can do is provide substantive responses to really

    really reasonable requests regarding related

    thrombocytopenia, endothelial injury, micro-thrombi

    stroke & acute idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura.

     

    An even more important starting point would be to

    enumerate and evaluate all deaths that occurred

    within 28 days of vax injection, and to compare the

    clinical pictures with those who've not been vaxed.      

    No firm, no org, nobody has ensured all COVID-19

    vaccines are supported by high quality trials that

    are sound and conducted in an ethical manner, or

    stop applying med products still in Phase 3 studies.      

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Parents in the Eastport-South Manor Central School District are sent a warning letter. The letter warns parents on sudden cardiac arrest for grades K=12! Why are parents allowing their children to be injected with the poison of Pharma when their children have a better chance of being struck by lightning on a sunny day? Here is the letter.

    Looks like I have to link to the article.

    School District in New York Sends out Email Warning Parents of Sudden Cardiac Arrest in Students Grades K-12 (thegatewaypundit.com)

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Parents in the Eastport-South Manor Central School District are sent a warning letter. The letter warns parents on sudden cardiac arrest for grades K=12! Why are parents allowing their children to be injected with the poison of Pharma when their children have a better chance of being struck by lightning on a sunny day? Here is the letter.

    Looks like I have to link to the article.

    School District in New York Sends out Email Warning Parents of Sudden Cardiac Arrest in Students Grades K-12 (thegatewaypundit.com)

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.   Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols. And he is correct.   See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself: PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

    And yet the CDC has, for the second time, recommend not taking a specific vaccine because 9 have died and many have had heart immflamation. Did the CDC ask Twitter or thefact checkers first??

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.   Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols. And he is correct.   See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself: PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

    And yet the CDC has, for the second time, recommend not taking a specific vaccine because 9 have died and many have had heart immflamation. Did the CDC ask Twitter or thefact checkers first??

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

      Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols.

    And he is correct.  

    See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

      Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols.

    And he is correct.  

    See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

     

    reuters has the facts thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

      Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols.

    And he is correct.  

    See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

      Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols.

    And he is correct.  

    See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

     

    reuters has the facts thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

      Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols.

    And he is correct.  

    See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.

      Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols.

    And he is correct.  

    See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself:

    PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN

     

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    Heard on the street, NFL is slated to postpone three games this week. 

    Washington and Cleveland both have 20+ players locked in on Covid19 protocol, so chances are these two teams are on the high list of postponement.  

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    Heard on the street, NFL is slated to postpone three games this week. 

    Washington and Cleveland both have 20+ players locked in on Covid19 protocol, so chances are these two teams are on the high list of postponement.  

     
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    95 - 95 - 100 

    Vaxx rates for NFL / NBA / NHL

    Brooklyn Nets are signing scrubs off the streets...... call Kyrie quiet

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    Vaxx rates for NFL / NBA / NHL

    Brooklyn Nets are signing scrubs off the streets...... call Kyrie quiet

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.   Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols. And he is correct.   See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself: PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN   reuters has the facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:  Fact checks by Forbes, Reuters and Full fact found research abstract is not reliable evidence of link between vaccines and increased risk of heart disease.  Twitter is right to warn about misleading content.  American heart association agrees by publishing "expression of concern" to warn that non-peer reviewed abstract contains errors, no data and no statistical analysis.  Actually mRNA vaccines are very safe.  Rare risk of heart inflammation after vaccination is nearly one in 300,000 doses administered which is lower than from covid infection.  But anti-vaxers are exploiting questionable abstract to promote misinformation.     So fact checkers know more about medical research than the researchers themselves. Interesting view. I'm not an "anti-vaxer" yet find deletion of opposing views communistic at best.   Well the poster you are quoting isn't claiming fact checkers know more about medical research.  Those are YOUR words. He is referencing the fact checkers from an article who were in turn referencing various experts and indeed just plain logic of scientific protocols. And he is correct.   See REUTERS fact checking article here, which casts serious doubts on the reliability of that removed "study," including a notable caveat from AHA itself: PS. this does not mean the study is wrong, just that there are reasonable grounds to cast serious doubts, which the AHA agreed. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSL1N2SH1HN   reuters has the facts

    Kelly sits to pee....facts.  

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Heard on the street, NFL is slated to postpone three games this week.  Washington and Cleveland both have 20+ players locked in on Covid19 protocol, so chances are these two teams are on the high list of postponement.

     

    college hoops cancelled several already and also the nhl

     

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    Heard on the street, NFL is slated to postpone three games this week.  Washington and Cleveland both have 20+ players locked in on Covid19 protocol, so chances are these two teams are on the high list of postponement.

     

    college hoops cancelled several already and also the nhl

     

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