new covid mutation :: OMICRON believed worse than delta

Most of our ancestors came here on different ships but we're all in the same boat now.

@wallstreetcappers

 Who said "terrible Latin Americans" and "destroying our country" ? 

Only you.

Have absolutely no problem with "legal" immigration. And then get vaccinated, I am. 

But noòoooo, come on over, hop a plane in the dark of night, where ya wana go? Don't want the vaccine, nooo problem. Some day show up and apply for legal citizenship, when you feel like it.

Residents of United States, get vaxed or lose your job. Flying in on a plane, now we'll quarantine you.

And that was one point I made.

Take that "Biden" out of your post and insert "Trump". As I clearly stated; USING THE SAME LOGIC I SAW HERE ALL OF 2020........

So what could Biden do?

#1 Acknowledge that the virus will NEVER go away. No amount of vaccinations, boosters every two months, etc. will eradicate this virus. Animals get this virus and then transfer it to humans. It will survive and always be there in various levels and it will mutate. History has shown most viruses weaken over time.

#2 Concentrate on TREATING the sick because people will get sick, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MASKING, SOCIAL DISTANCING, NO INDOOR GATHERINGS, ETC.

LIKE THIS;

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2021/12/michigan-paramedics-are-making-house-calls-to-treat-covid-positive-patients-with-antibody-infusions.html

3. Make sure those vulnerable have access to the vaccines, boosters, and latest treatments. (i.e. cutting off Remdesiver to Florida)

Most people and myself included ARE NOT living under a rock until my government or THEIR scientists says it's safe to come out. I will continue LIVING MY LIFE and I may get shot by a gun, may die in a car accident, may get cancer and die like my mother before me, maybe a heart attack, or maybe COVID. Going to live my life!!!

All my grown children have had COVID, all my grandchildren have had COVID, my children's in-laws ALL have had COVID, one in the hospital for a week as a precaution due to several previous heart surgeries. They all got through it. Some twice. Lucky? maybe. 

The University of California football team is a prime example of vaccinations. 99% vaccination rate. They tested ONLY the 1% and someone tested positive. Then they tested the other 99%. OOPS, BIG MISTAKE!!!! More 1/3 of that football team had COVID. They forfeited their game. All across the country college teams did not test the vaccinated. Is that following science? Hell NO. Did the vaccine prevent COVID, Hell NO. Did the vaccine prevent the spread of COVID on this team? Hell NO.

Every day.

Pulling out the race/hate card and look at them line up. 

Point; If your going to impose restrictions on your CITIZENS than the same restrictions should be imposed on our "VISITORS". 

If your going to post the number of dead and say it was ALL TRUMPS FAULT, then you count the number of dead from DELTA and it's ALL BIDEN's FAULT.

Anything else is PURE HYPROCRISY.

If you consider the black community to be at the bottom of the totem pole, as most Democrats do, and you want the black community to achieve more success, then illegal immigration should be a major concern to you. 

Illegal immigration is extremely detrimental to the lower class workers in the United States. 

I would bet that the people that benefit the most from illegal immigration are more likely to vote Republican. 

I can bump threads too.

very well laid out thirdperson   

very well laid out thirdperson   

Did not see this, I do not agree with your premise regarding the impacts...mRNA has not been around long enough to draw conclusions you and they are suggesting, it is so new we have no clue any long term impacts. I do not blindly support agendas and the medical community many times has agendas, much like how when I was a kid the chicken pox vacc was blindly told to be taken and yet here we are with long term impacts.

The trials and regulatory approval process was way too fast, too fast to be comprehensive and proper, it usually takes years for approval with multiple long term trials yet this was slammed through and I think that is dangerous and reckless. Monitoring is a joke that is after the fact and at this point barring a serious wide spread epidemic there is nothing happening when questions are raised or people are dying...its embedded in society now and there is little to no chance this will be stopped even though it has harmed and killed many. If you follow the process of drug and therapy approval there is no way this was properly trialed and vetted by the FDA or world regulatory agencies even close to what was needed.

1.  You will not respond to this reply but for logical argument's sake, please show us which IMMUNOLOGISTS stated it is IMPOSSIBLE.  Do you realize how ignorant that statement sounds coming from a SCIENTIST.  Unless you are a immunologist, which we all know you're not, then how the hell can you make that statement???  No scientist / immunologist would use the term impossible to describe something they DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEMSELVES.  

2.  This isn't a vaccine as defined by your 6 week medical history comment.  mRNA tech was not used for ANY of the studies your comment is mentioning.  

3.  You provide ZERO sources to any of your information.  All of your information is not necessarily wrong but you state it as FACT when you provide NO PROOF.  At least your clown posse can copy & paste a link.  

4.  THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONSIPIRACY AND TRUTH...................  IS TIME.  

     Your points are well made and I concur.   Trump endorsed the vaccines as have several republican governors.

BOOM, ROASTED....

Big pharma has a tendency to have an AGENDA you say!?  Yep, never heard of the OPIOD crisis....  Look it up, ThirdP can probably state something that sounds like fact, degrades the victims and families of victims who suffered and died, then praise the pharmaceutical companies for accepting the courts decision to find them liable for BILLIONS of dollars.  

Like I said before, if 3rdP is an immunologist who has been boots on the ground in the development of vaccines AND mRNA tech since day 1 then we should all bow to the almighty and eat our crow.  You'll get no response just like you got no response to the previous attempts to discuss, debate & progress as intelligent beings.  I like it though, it's nice to have more smart people in here who have values, principles and a healthy respect for TRUTH in this world.  

@fubah2

I like how you stole my "good post" emoji 

Imitation is sincerest form of flattery.........

although one group is hudlling on the far right end and the other hudlling a long ways away in the middle

while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed'

by donnie chump

to make it befor the election

his only motive    thats all that mattered to him

@fubah2

I like how you stole my "good post" emoji 

Imitation is sincerest form of flattery.........

Agreed!

It was rushed, but it was rushed at the best of adolf trump

whoops, sorry for the triple post....those damn glitches that happen every single time those other two usernames post, hope this doesn't become an ongoing tech problem for my account 

it was rushed for illicit purposes but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine itself is defective .

Of course not!  

Indeed, it was shown in trials to be 91-95% effective against the ORIGINAL STRAIN for which it was specifically developed and this held up to that same level of efficay on all **ORIGINAL STRAIN** cases up to late spring when the DELTA variant became the dominant strain.   Thus proving that even though it was rushed -- entirely for REPUBLICAN political purposes -- as it turned out the resultant vaccine was effective against the ORIGINAL STRAIN for which it was developed.

Success!  Some might say a good deal of luck was involved and I don't know that I would argue, but the bottom line is still the bottom line.

Twitter warns users that the American Heart Association website maybe unsafe.

Why? Because a documented study found a coorelation between the mRNA vaccines and heart imflamation. Can't have the truth be told, can we. No science allowed.

"Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients."

"...... At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac. We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."

Twitter is now warning users against traveling to the website of the American Heart Association’s journals, telling them that the destination website may be “unsafe” — a designation previously reserved for sites containing viruses and malware, but recently expanded by Twitter to include “misleading content.”

Amazing the world we now live in!!!