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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 8:39 PM ET #76

    Most of our ancestors came here on different ships but we're all in the same boat now.

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    Most of our ancestors came here on different ships but we're all in the same boat now.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 8:45 PM ET #77

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     Who said "terrible Latin Americans" and "destroying our country" ? 

    Only you.

    Have absolutely no problem with "legal" immigration. And then get vaccinated, I am. 

    But noòoooo, come on over, hop a plane in the dark of night, where ya wana go? Don't want the vaccine, nooo problem. Some day show up and apply for legal citizenship, when you feel like it.

    Residents of United States, get vaxed or lose your job. Flying in on a plane, now we'll quarantine you.

    And that was one point I made.

    Take that "Biden" out of your post and insert "Trump". As I clearly stated; USING THE SAME LOGIC I SAW HERE ALL OF 2020........

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    @wallstreetcappers

     Who said "terrible Latin Americans" and "destroying our country" ? 

    Only you.

    Have absolutely no problem with "legal" immigration. And then get vaccinated, I am. 

    But noòoooo, come on over, hop a plane in the dark of night, where ya wana go? Don't want the vaccine, nooo problem. Some day show up and apply for legal citizenship, when you feel like it.

    Residents of United States, get vaxed or lose your job. Flying in on a plane, now we'll quarantine you.

    And that was one point I made.

    Take that "Biden" out of your post and insert "Trump". As I clearly stated; USING THE SAME LOGIC I SAW HERE ALL OF 2020........

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 8:47 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
    Uniman,

    Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do?

    Is he a scientist who makes vaccs

    or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country?

    Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything.

     

     

    Every day, more foreigners fly into the US from all around the world and cross the border from Canada, than all the illegals who cross the southern border over a full year. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
    Uniman,

    Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do?

    Is he a scientist who makes vaccs

    or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country?

    Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything.

     

     

    Every day, more foreigners fly into the US from all around the world and cross the border from Canada, than all the illegals who cross the southern border over a full year. 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 9:21 PM ET #79

    So what could Biden do?

    #1 Acknowledge that the virus will NEVER go away. No amount of vaccinations, boosters every two months, etc. will eradicate this virus. Animals get this virus and then transfer it to humans. It will survive and always be there in various levels and it will mutate. History has shown most viruses weaken over time.

    #2 Concentrate on TREATING the sick because people will get sick, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MASKING, SOCIAL DISTANCING, NO INDOOR GATHERINGS, ETC.

    LIKE THIS;

    https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2021/12/michigan-paramedics-are-making-house-calls-to-treat-covid-positive-patients-with-antibody-infusions.html

    3. Make sure those vulnerable have access to the vaccines, boosters, and latest treatments. (i.e. cutting off Remdesiver to Florida)

     

    Most people and myself included ARE NOT living under a rock until my government or THEIR scientists says it's safe to come out. I will continue LIVING MY LIFE and I may get shot by a gun, may die in a car accident, may get cancer and die like my mother before me, maybe a heart attack, or maybe COVID. Going to live my life!!!

    All my grown children have had COVID, all my grandchildren have had COVID, my children's in-laws ALL have had COVID, one in the hospital for a week as a precaution due to several previous heart surgeries. They all got through it. Some twice. Lucky? maybe. 

    The University of California football team is a prime example of vaccinations. 99% vaccination rate. They tested ONLY the 1% and someone tested positive. Then they tested the other 99%. OOPS, BIG MISTAKE!!!! More 1/3 of that football team had COVID. They forfeited their game. All across the country college teams did not test the vaccinated. Is that following science? Hell NO. Did the vaccine prevent COVID, Hell NO. Did the vaccine prevent the spread of COVID on this team? Hell NO.

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    So what could Biden do?

    #1 Acknowledge that the virus will NEVER go away. No amount of vaccinations, boosters every two months, etc. will eradicate this virus. Animals get this virus and then transfer it to humans. It will survive and always be there in various levels and it will mutate. History has shown most viruses weaken over time.

    #2 Concentrate on TREATING the sick because people will get sick, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MASKING, SOCIAL DISTANCING, NO INDOOR GATHERINGS, ETC.

    LIKE THIS;

    https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2021/12/michigan-paramedics-are-making-house-calls-to-treat-covid-positive-patients-with-antibody-infusions.html

    3. Make sure those vulnerable have access to the vaccines, boosters, and latest treatments. (i.e. cutting off Remdesiver to Florida)

     

    Most people and myself included ARE NOT living under a rock until my government or THEIR scientists says it's safe to come out. I will continue LIVING MY LIFE and I may get shot by a gun, may die in a car accident, may get cancer and die like my mother before me, maybe a heart attack, or maybe COVID. Going to live my life!!!

    All my grown children have had COVID, all my grandchildren have had COVID, my children's in-laws ALL have had COVID, one in the hospital for a week as a precaution due to several previous heart surgeries. They all got through it. Some twice. Lucky? maybe. 

    The University of California football team is a prime example of vaccinations. 99% vaccination rate. They tested ONLY the 1% and someone tested positive. Then they tested the other 99%. OOPS, BIG MISTAKE!!!! More 1/3 of that football team had COVID. They forfeited their game. All across the country college teams did not test the vaccinated. Is that following science? Hell NO. Did the vaccine prevent COVID, Hell NO. Did the vaccine prevent the spread of COVID on this team? Hell NO.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 9:29 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Uniman,

    Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do?

    Is he a scientist who makes vaccs

    or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country?

    Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything.

     

     

    Every day, more foreigners fly into the US from all around the world and cross the border from Canada, than all the illegals who cross the southern border over a full year. 

    Every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Uniman,

    Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do?

    Is he a scientist who makes vaccs

    or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country?

    Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything.

     

     

    Every day, more foreigners fly into the US from all around the world and cross the border from Canada, than all the illegals who cross the southern border over a full year. 

    Every day.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 9:42 PM ET #81

    Pulling out the race/hate card and look at them line up. an_roll_laugh

    Point; If your going to impose restrictions on your CITIZENS than the same restrictions should be imposed on our "VISITORS". 

    If your going to post the number of dead and say it was ALL TRUMPS FAULT, then you count the number of dead from DELTA and it's ALL BIDEN's FAULT.

    Anything else is PURE HYPROCRISY.

     

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    Pulling out the race/hate card and look at them line up. an_roll_laugh

    Point; If your going to impose restrictions on your CITIZENS than the same restrictions should be imposed on our "VISITORS". 

    If your going to post the number of dead and say it was ALL TRUMPS FAULT, then you count the number of dead from DELTA and it's ALL BIDEN's FAULT.

    Anything else is PURE HYPROCRISY.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Uniman, Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do? Is he a scientist who makes vaccs or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country? Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything. The reason this will keep going in is that people are not diligent in how they live their lives, people want a shot in the arm and then do whatever the crap they want and THAT is the cause not some evil faceless person from south of the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Uniman, Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do? Is he a scientist who makes vaccs or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country? Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything. The reason this will keep going in is that people are not diligent in how they live their lives, people want a shot in the arm and then do whatever the crap they want and THAT is the cause not some evil faceless person from south of the border.

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    If you consider the black community to be at the bottom of the totem pole, as most Democrats do, and you want the black community to achieve more success, then illegal immigration should be a major concern to you. 

    Illegal immigration is extremely detrimental to the lower class workers in the United States. 

    I would bet that the people that benefit the most from illegal immigration are more likely to vote Republican. 

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    If you consider the black community to be at the bottom of the totem pole, as most Democrats do, and you want the black community to achieve more success, then illegal immigration should be a major concern to you. 

    Illegal immigration is extremely detrimental to the lower class workers in the United States. 

    I would bet that the people that benefit the most from illegal immigration are more likely to vote Republican. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Uniman, Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do? Is he a scientist who makes vaccs or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country? Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything. The reason this will keep going in is that people are not diligent in how they live their lives, people want a shot in the arm and then do whatever the crap they want and THAT is the cause not some evil faceless person from south of the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Uniman, Outside of right wing wacko excessive make believe decisions what can Biden do? Is he a scientist who makes vaccs or is your only solution is to stop those terrible Latin American people from destroying this country? Gotta step away from the hate and blame that you seem to roll around in and quit making other people the cause for all the ills in your life. Its impossible to seal off the border and it would not change much of anything. The reason this will keep going in is that people are not diligent in how they live their lives, people want a shot in the arm and then do whatever the crap they want and THAT is the cause not some evil faceless person from south of the border.

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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2021 - 10:21 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    pro-vacc people are not considering long term consequences, even though people have died and there are many issues..it does not mean that long term there will not be side effects and harm. These "cures" were rushed to the market way too fast without proper trials.

     

    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. 

    First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    pro-vacc people are not considering long term consequences, even though people have died and there are many issues..it does not mean that long term there will not be side effects and harm. These "cures" were rushed to the market way too fast without proper trials.

     

    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. 

    First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

    very well laid out thirdperson    thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    pro-vacc people are not considering long term consequences, even though people have died and there are many issues..it does not mean that long term there will not be side effects and harm. These "cures" were rushed to the market way too fast without proper trials.

     

    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. 

    First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    pro-vacc people are not considering long term consequences, even though people have died and there are many issues..it does not mean that long term there will not be side effects and harm. These "cures" were rushed to the market way too fast without proper trials.

     

    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. 

    First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

    very well laid out thirdperson    thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Follow the pattern of posting from that person you will see a trend of blaming and finger pointing instead of approaching the problem from a realistic and scientific perspective.

    Maybe he feels better sitting in his house being mad at ethnics and illegals, that his plight in life is determined by people he will never know and never understand. We are all immigrants, we are all mostly wanting the same thing and when we stop blaming others for what is lacking then and only then you can make progress to find answers.

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    Follow the pattern of posting from that person you will see a trend of blaming and finger pointing instead of approaching the problem from a realistic and scientific perspective.

    Maybe he feels better sitting in his house being mad at ethnics and illegals, that his plight in life is determined by people he will never know and never understand. We are all immigrants, we are all mostly wanting the same thing and when we stop blaming others for what is lacking then and only then you can make progress to find answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: pro-vacc people are not considering long term consequences, even though people have died and there are many issues..it does not mean that long term there will not be side effects and harm. These "cures" were rushed to the market way too fast without proper trials. The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons.  First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

     

    Did not see this, I do not agree with your premise regarding the impacts...mRNA has not been around long enough to draw conclusions you and they are suggesting, it is so new we have no clue any long term impacts. I do not blindly support agendas and the medical community many times has agendas, much like how when I was a kid the chicken pox vacc was blindly told to be taken and yet here we are with long term impacts.

    The trials and regulatory approval process was way too fast, too fast to be comprehensive and proper, it usually takes years for approval with multiple long term trials yet this was slammed through and I think that is dangerous and reckless. Monitoring is a joke that is after the fact and at this point barring a serious wide spread epidemic there is nothing happening when questions are raised or people are dying...its embedded in society now and there is little to no chance this will be stopped even though it has harmed and killed many. If you follow the process of drug and therapy approval there is no way this was properly trialed and vetted by the FDA or world regulatory agencies even close to what was needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: pro-vacc people are not considering long term consequences, even though people have died and there are many issues..it does not mean that long term there will not be side effects and harm. These "cures" were rushed to the market way too fast without proper trials. The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons.  First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

     

    Did not see this, I do not agree with your premise regarding the impacts...mRNA has not been around long enough to draw conclusions you and they are suggesting, it is so new we have no clue any long term impacts. I do not blindly support agendas and the medical community many times has agendas, much like how when I was a kid the chicken pox vacc was blindly told to be taken and yet here we are with long term impacts.

    The trials and regulatory approval process was way too fast, too fast to be comprehensive and proper, it usually takes years for approval with multiple long term trials yet this was slammed through and I think that is dangerous and reckless. Monitoring is a joke that is after the fact and at this point barring a serious wide spread epidemic there is nothing happening when questions are raised or people are dying...its embedded in society now and there is little to no chance this will be stopped even though it has harmed and killed many. If you follow the process of drug and therapy approval there is no way this was properly trialed and vetted by the FDA or world regulatory agencies even close to what was needed.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons.  First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

    1.  You will not respond to this reply but for logical argument's sake, please show us which IMMUNOLOGISTS stated it is IMPOSSIBLE.  Do you realize how ignorant that statement sounds coming from a SCIENTIST.  Unless you are a immunologist, which we all know you're not, then how the hell can you make that statement???  No scientist / immunologist would use the term impossible to describe something they DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEMSELVES.  

    2.  This isn't a vaccine as defined by your 6 week medical history comment.  mRNA tech was not used for ANY of the studies your comment is mentioning.  

    3.  You provide ZERO sources to any of your information.  All of your information is not necessarily wrong but you state it as FACT when you provide NO PROOF.  At least your clown posse can copy & paste a link.  

    4.  THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONSIPIRACY AND TRUTH...................  IS TIME.  

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    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists.  Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines.  Unlike drugs that build up in human body.  6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history.    Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons.  First, most people experience minor side effects within days.  Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.  Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.  Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.  fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.  Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.  Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

    1.  You will not respond to this reply but for logical argument's sake, please show us which IMMUNOLOGISTS stated it is IMPOSSIBLE.  Do you realize how ignorant that statement sounds coming from a SCIENTIST.  Unless you are a immunologist, which we all know you're not, then how the hell can you make that statement???  No scientist / immunologist would use the term impossible to describe something they DO NOT EVEN KNOW THEMSELVES.  

    2.  This isn't a vaccine as defined by your 6 week medical history comment.  mRNA tech was not used for ANY of the studies your comment is mentioning.  

    3.  You provide ZERO sources to any of your information.  All of your information is not necessarily wrong but you state it as FACT when you provide NO PROOF.  At least your clown posse can copy & paste a link.  

    4.  THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONSIPIRACY AND TRUTH...................  IS TIME.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists. Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines. Unlike drugs that build up in human body. 6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history. Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons.

    First, most people experience minor side effects within days. Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.

    Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.

    Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.

    fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.

    Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.

    Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

    goodpost     Your points are well made and I concur.   Trump endorsed the vaccines as have several republican governors.

     

     

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    The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists. Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines. Unlike drugs that build up in human body. 6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history. Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons.

    First, most people experience minor side effects within days. Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered.

    Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction.

    Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects.

    fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months.

    Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history.

    Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.

    goodpost     Your points are well made and I concur.   Trump endorsed the vaccines as have several republican governors.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

       Did not see this, I do not agree with your premise regarding the impacts...mRNA has not been around long enough to draw conclusions you and they are suggesting, it is so new we have no clue any long term impacts. I do not blindly support agendas and the medical community many times has agendas, much like how when I was a kid the chicken pox vacc was blindly told to be taken and yet here we are with long term impacts. The trials and regulatory approval process was way too fast, too fast to be comprehensive and proper, it usually takes years for approval with multiple long term trials yet this was slammed through and I think that is dangerous and reckless. Monitoring is a joke that is after the fact and at this point barring a serious wide spread epidemic there is nothing happening when questions are raised or people are dying...its embedded in society now and there is little to no chance this will be stopped even though it has harmed and killed many. If you follow the process of drug and therapy approval there is no way this was properly trialed and vetted by the FDA or world regulatory agencies even close to what was needed.

     

    BOOM, ROASTED....

    Big pharma has a tendency to have an AGENDA you say!?  Yep, never heard of the OPIOD crisis....  Look it up, ThirdP can probably state something that sounds like fact, degrades the victims and families of victims who suffered and died, then praise the pharmaceutical companies for accepting the courts decision to find them liable for BILLIONS of dollars.  

    Like I said before, if 3rdP is an immunologist who has been boots on the ground in the development of vaccines AND mRNA tech since day 1 then we should all bow to the almighty and eat our crow.  You'll get no response just like you got no response to the previous attempts to discuss, debate & progress as intelligent beings.  I like it though, it's nice to have more smart people in here who have values, principles and a healthy respect for TRUTH in this world.  

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       Did not see this, I do not agree with your premise regarding the impacts...mRNA has not been around long enough to draw conclusions you and they are suggesting, it is so new we have no clue any long term impacts. I do not blindly support agendas and the medical community many times has agendas, much like how when I was a kid the chicken pox vacc was blindly told to be taken and yet here we are with long term impacts. The trials and regulatory approval process was way too fast, too fast to be comprehensive and proper, it usually takes years for approval with multiple long term trials yet this was slammed through and I think that is dangerous and reckless. Monitoring is a joke that is after the fact and at this point barring a serious wide spread epidemic there is nothing happening when questions are raised or people are dying...its embedded in society now and there is little to no chance this will be stopped even though it has harmed and killed many. If you follow the process of drug and therapy approval there is no way this was properly trialed and vetted by the FDA or world regulatory agencies even close to what was needed.

     

    BOOM, ROASTED....

    Big pharma has a tendency to have an AGENDA you say!?  Yep, never heard of the OPIOD crisis....  Look it up, ThirdP can probably state something that sounds like fact, degrades the victims and families of victims who suffered and died, then praise the pharmaceutical companies for accepting the courts decision to find them liable for BILLIONS of dollars.  

    Like I said before, if 3rdP is an immunologist who has been boots on the ground in the development of vaccines AND mRNA tech since day 1 then we should all bow to the almighty and eat our crow.  You'll get no response just like you got no response to the previous attempts to discuss, debate & progress as intelligent beings.  I like it though, it's nice to have more smart people in here who have values, principles and a healthy respect for TRUTH in this world.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Most of our ancestors came here on different ships but we're all in the same boat now.

     

    although one group is hudlling on the far right end and the other hudlling a long ways away in the middle

     

     

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    Most of our ancestors came here on different ships but we're all in the same boat now.

     

    although one group is hudlling on the far right end and the other hudlling a long ways away in the middle

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists. Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines. Unlike drugs that build up in human body. 6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history. Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. First, most people experience minor side effects within days. Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered. Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction. Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects. fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months. Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history. Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.      Your points are well made and I concur.   Trump endorsed the vaccines as have several republican governors.

    while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed'

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    to make it befor the election

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists. Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines. Unlike drugs that build up in human body. 6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history. Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. First, most people experience minor side effects within days. Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered. Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction. Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects. fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months. Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history. Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.      Your points are well made and I concur.   Trump endorsed the vaccines as have several republican governors.

    while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed'

    by donnie chump

    to make it befor the election

    his only motive    thats all that mattered to him

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists. Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines. Unlike drugs that build up in human body. 6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history. Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. First, most people experience minor side effects within days. Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered. Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction. Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects. fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months. Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history. Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.      Your points are well made and I concur.   Trump endorsed the vaccines as have several republican governors.

     

     

    while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed'

    by donnie chump

    to make it befor the election

    his only motive    thats all that mattered to him

     

    Agreed!

    It was rushed, but it was rushed at the best of adolf trump

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: The conspiracy theory that covid vaccine side effects show up years later is impossible according to immunologists. Regulators in many countries only need 2-3 months of clinical testing data to evaluate vaccines. Unlike drugs that build up in human body. 6 weeks is the longest time for side effects to appear for any vaccine in medical history. Doctors and scientists are confident in the safety of vaccines for several reasons. First, most people experience minor side effects within days. Severe side effects are very rare such as one in a million doses administered. Secondly, mRNA vaccines rapidly break down completely in a short time and cannot trigger any lasting reaction. Third, decades of studying mRNA vaccine technology show no long term side effects. fourth, even extremely rare side effects are revealed when over 7 billion doses are administered worldwide over many months. Fifth, no shortcuts taken in research, development and testing of covid vaccines made possible by biggest investment and international effort in vaccine history. Sixth, standard practice of constant monitoring after vaccine approval ensures public safety in many countries.      Your points are well made and I concur.   Trump endorsed the vaccines as have several republican governors.

     

     

    while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed'

    by donnie chump

    to make it befor the election

    his only motive    thats all that mattered to him

     

    Agreed!

    It was rushed, but it was rushed at the best of adolf trump

     

     

     

     

     
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    whoops, sorry for the triple post....those damn glitches that happen every single time those other two usernames post, hope this doesn't become an ongoing tech problem for my account cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed'

    by donnie chump

    to make it befor the election

    his only motive    thats all that mattered to him

     

     

     

    Agreed!

    It was rushed, but it was rushed at the best of adolf trump

    it was rushed for illicit purposes but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine itself is defective .

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed'

    by donnie chump

    to make it befor the election

    his only motive    thats all that mattered to him

     

     

     

    Agreed!

    It was rushed, but it was rushed at the best of adolf trump

    it was rushed for illicit purposes but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine itself is defective .

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed' by donnie chump to make it befor the election his only motive    thats all that mattered to him       Agreed!

     

     

    It was rushed, but it was rushed at the best of adolf trump it was rushed for illicit purposes but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine itself is defective .

     

    Of course not!  

    Indeed, it was shown in trials to be 91-95% effective against the ORIGINAL STRAIN for which it was specifically developed and this held up to that same level of efficay on all **ORIGINAL STRAIN** cases up to late spring when the DELTA variant became the dominant strain.   Thus proving that even though it was rushed -- entirely for REPUBLICAN political purposes -- as it turned out the resultant vaccine was effective against the ORIGINAL STRAIN for which it was developed.

    Success!  Some might say a good deal of luck was involved and I don't know that I would argue, but the bottom line is still the bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: while there does not appear to b any major shortcuts it was certainly 'rushed' by donnie chump to make it befor the election his only motive    thats all that mattered to him       Agreed!

     

     

    It was rushed, but it was rushed at the best of adolf trump it was rushed for illicit purposes but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine itself is defective .

     

    Of course not!  

    Indeed, it was shown in trials to be 91-95% effective against the ORIGINAL STRAIN for which it was specifically developed and this held up to that same level of efficay on all **ORIGINAL STRAIN** cases up to late spring when the DELTA variant became the dominant strain.   Thus proving that even though it was rushed -- entirely for REPUBLICAN political purposes -- as it turned out the resultant vaccine was effective against the ORIGINAL STRAIN for which it was developed.

    Success!  Some might say a good deal of luck was involved and I don't know that I would argue, but the bottom line is still the bottom line.

     
     
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    Twitter warns users that the American Heart Association website maybe unsafe.

    Why? Because a documented study found a coorelation between the mRNA vaccines and heart imflamation. Can't have the truth be told, can we. No science allowed.

    "Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients."

    "...... At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac. We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."

    Twitter is now warning users against traveling to the website of the American Heart Association’s journals, telling them that the destination website may be “unsafe” — a designation previously reserved for sites containing viruses and malware, but recently expanded by Twitter to include “misleading content.”

    Amazing the world we now live in!!!

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    Twitter warns users that the American Heart Association website maybe unsafe.

    Why? Because a documented study found a coorelation between the mRNA vaccines and heart imflamation. Can't have the truth be told, can we. No science allowed.

    "Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients."

    "...... At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac. We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."

    Twitter is now warning users against traveling to the website of the American Heart Association’s journals, telling them that the destination website may be “unsafe” — a designation previously reserved for sites containing viruses and malware, but recently expanded by Twitter to include “misleading content.”

    Amazing the world we now live in!!!

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