I don't see much of any risk Van. We have legalized poker and online gaming in Nj and are expanding the online gambling arena. Even pokerstars is back online.
The days of the Feds or NY attorney general going after some rogue sports gambling sites are over in my opinion. Sports gambling is the obvious next step in legalized online gaming, especially in NJ as you've documented on this site in other threads.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
I don't see much of any risk Van. We have legalized poker and online gaming in Nj and are expanding the online gambling arena. Even pokerstars is back online.
The days of the Feds or NY attorney general going after some rogue sports gambling sites are over in my opinion. Sports gambling is the obvious next step in legalized online gaming, especially in NJ as you've documented on this site in other threads.
Vanzack,I'm not here to shoot down your very thoughtful handicapping of the 2016 election and the winner..just giving my view ...and you are correct the math isn't their for Trump..
The way I see it is... your capping of the electoral map for this election is what would have worked in the past..but this year everything is turned upside down..the old reliable math and playbook might not work this time..
..e.g. Just five months ago Nate Silver, who correctly predicted the election results of all 50 states in 201 said...
“I don’t think his (Trumps) chances are zero. You have to be very careful about
saying they’re zero, but I think they’re lower than 20 or 25 percent,”..... “Maybe they’re 10 percent. Maybe they’re 8 percent. I’m not
sure, somewhere in that range. You’ve never had a candidate like Donald
Trump win a nomination before, at least not in the modern era, which is
1972 or so onward, which is when people started voting in primaries and
caucuses.”
What I'm saying is.... this year could be an anomaly in the modern era ..a deviation from the common rule...and as in all rules ..they are made to be broken..
Either way ..,however it turns out ..Good Luck..
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Vanzack,I'm not here to shoot down your very thoughtful handicapping of the 2016 election and the winner..just giving my view ...and you are correct the math isn't their for Trump..
The way I see it is... your capping of the electoral map for this election is what would have worked in the past..but this year everything is turned upside down..the old reliable math and playbook might not work this time..
..e.g. Just five months ago Nate Silver, who correctly predicted the election results of all 50 states in 201 said...
“I don’t think his (Trumps) chances are zero. You have to be very careful about
saying they’re zero, but I think they’re lower than 20 or 25 percent,”..... “Maybe they’re 10 percent. Maybe they’re 8 percent. I’m not
sure, somewhere in that range. You’ve never had a candidate like Donald
Trump win a nomination before, at least not in the modern era, which is
1972 or so onward, which is when people started voting in primaries and
caucuses.”
What I'm saying is.... this year could be an anomaly in the modern era ..a deviation from the common rule...and as in all rules ..they are made to be broken..
I guess that's what we are seeing.I'm thinking -250 sounds like a lot. Hopefully trump does well and this drops below -200. That's probably the buy in point for me You're an idiot who won't bet a cent. Stop em gratifying yourself, acting like you're gonna put down your stock portfolio to "buy in" --lol
It is more honest and you might get more compassion in life if you admit you're a loser, instead of playing the fool on both ends, and putting us all through this self aggrandizement. Pathetic souless morass.
This type of SAF is what is wrong with covers. At least some people try to be polite when they spew their lies
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:
I guess that's what we are seeing.I'm thinking -250 sounds like a lot. Hopefully trump does well and this drops below -200. That's probably the buy in point for me You're an idiot who won't bet a cent. Stop em gratifying yourself, acting like you're gonna put down your stock portfolio to "buy in" --lol
It is more honest and you might get more compassion in life if you admit you're a loser, instead of playing the fool on both ends, and putting us all through this self aggrandizement. Pathetic souless morass.
This type of SAF is what is wrong with covers. At least some people try to be polite when they spew their lies
Vanzack,I'm not here to shoot down your very thoughtful handicapping of the 2016 election and the winner..just giving my view ...and you are correct the math isn't their for Trump..
The way I see it is... your capping of the electoral map for this election is what would have worked in the past..but this year everything is turned upside down..the old reliable math and playbook might not work this time..
..e.g. Just five months ago Nate Silver, who correctly predicted the election results of all 50 states in 201 said...
“I don’t think his (Trumps) chances are zero. You have to be very careful about
saying they’re zero, but I think they’re lower than 20 or 25 percent,”..... “Maybe they’re 10 percent. Maybe they’re 8 percent. I’m not
sure, somewhere in that range. You’ve never had a candidate like Donald
Trump win a nomination before, at least not in the modern era, which is
1972 or so onward, which is when people started voting in primaries and
caucuses.”
What I'm saying is.... this year could be an anomaly in the modern era ..a deviation from the common rule...and as in all rules ..they are made to be broken..
Either way ..,however it turns out ..Good Luck..
I dont think you can argue with this.
Remember - all I am saying is that Clinton has a better than 70% chance of winning (at current prices). I would never say anything is impossible, or even close to that.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Vanzack,I'm not here to shoot down your very thoughtful handicapping of the 2016 election and the winner..just giving my view ...and you are correct the math isn't their for Trump..
The way I see it is... your capping of the electoral map for this election is what would have worked in the past..but this year everything is turned upside down..the old reliable math and playbook might not work this time..
..e.g. Just five months ago Nate Silver, who correctly predicted the election results of all 50 states in 201 said...
“I don’t think his (Trumps) chances are zero. You have to be very careful about
saying they’re zero, but I think they’re lower than 20 or 25 percent,”..... “Maybe they’re 10 percent. Maybe they’re 8 percent. I’m not
sure, somewhere in that range. You’ve never had a candidate like Donald
Trump win a nomination before, at least not in the modern era, which is
1972 or so onward, which is when people started voting in primaries and
caucuses.”
What I'm saying is.... this year could be an anomaly in the modern era ..a deviation from the common rule...and as in all rules ..they are made to be broken..
Either way ..,however it turns out ..Good Luck..
I dont think you can argue with this.
Remember - all I am saying is that Clinton has a better than 70% chance of winning (at current prices). I would never say anything is impossible, or even close to that.
It's going to be difficult for Trump but I wouldn't guarantee Hillary gets PA and MI. PA has a lot of blue collar democrats that may sway towards Trump. Plus the state isn't made up of a lot more democrats even though they've voted that way in the past 4 elections.I'd be very surprised if Trump doesn't win Ohio also.The problem for Trump is that some states that normally vote Republican may end up blue (like Arizona). It's going to be much closer than you all are making it seem. The smartest thing Trump can do is name Kasich his vp. Kasich is very moderate, and would help Trump get Ohio and some other potential swing states.
What amazes me is that we have a country filled with millions of people, and these are the two candidates were left with, even three with Bernie the socialist. The unfavorability factor in this election is staggering. We need some sort of compromise in this country. Every democrat I've spoken to hated Bush and every republican hates Obama. It seems like every candidate is so far to the left or so far to the right. Obama has put forth no effort to compromise and neither have the republicans for the past 8 years. Everyone appears to be moving further and further away from the middle and it's causing extreme tension among this country. You have trump supporters who are perfectly ok with the "ban muslims" comment Trump made and you have liberal protestors bashing cop cars because they disagree with those statements. It's honestly out of control. This election is going be very ugly but very entertaining
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It's going to be difficult for Trump but I wouldn't guarantee Hillary gets PA and MI. PA has a lot of blue collar democrats that may sway towards Trump. Plus the state isn't made up of a lot more democrats even though they've voted that way in the past 4 elections.I'd be very surprised if Trump doesn't win Ohio also.The problem for Trump is that some states that normally vote Republican may end up blue (like Arizona). It's going to be much closer than you all are making it seem. The smartest thing Trump can do is name Kasich his vp. Kasich is very moderate, and would help Trump get Ohio and some other potential swing states.
What amazes me is that we have a country filled with millions of people, and these are the two candidates were left with, even three with Bernie the socialist. The unfavorability factor in this election is staggering. We need some sort of compromise in this country. Every democrat I've spoken to hated Bush and every republican hates Obama. It seems like every candidate is so far to the left or so far to the right. Obama has put forth no effort to compromise and neither have the republicans for the past 8 years. Everyone appears to be moving further and further away from the middle and it's causing extreme tension among this country. You have trump supporters who are perfectly ok with the "ban muslims" comment Trump made and you have liberal protestors bashing cop cars because they disagree with those statements. It's honestly out of control. This election is going be very ugly but very entertaining
It's going to be difficult for Trump but I wouldn't guarantee Hillary gets PA and MI. PA has a lot of blue collar democrats that may sway towards Trump. Plus the state isn't made up of a lot more democrats even though they've voted that way in the past 4 elections.I'd be very surprised if Trump doesn't win Ohio also.The problem for Trump is that some states that normally vote Republican may end up blue (like Arizona). It's going to be much closer than you all are making it seem. The smartest thing Trump can do is name Kasich his vp. Kasich is very moderate, and would help Trump get Ohio and some other potential swing states.
What amazes me is that we have a country filled with millions of people, and these are the two candidates were left with, even three with Bernie the socialist. The unfavorability factor in this election is staggering. We need some sort of compromise in this country. Every democrat I've spoken to hated Bush and every republican hates Obama. It seems like every candidate is so far to the left or so far to the right. Obama has put forth no effort to compromise and neither have the republicans for the past 8 years. Everyone appears to be moving further and further away from the middle and it's causing extreme tension among this country. You have trump supporters who are perfectly ok with the "ban muslims" comment Trump made and you have liberal protestors bashing cop cars because they disagree with those statements. It's honestly out of control. This election is going be very ugly but very entertaining
I think one thing is for certain.... This cannot be the best we can do as a country. These 2? Really? These are the two best candidates to run our nation?
It is incredible.
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Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:
It's going to be difficult for Trump but I wouldn't guarantee Hillary gets PA and MI. PA has a lot of blue collar democrats that may sway towards Trump. Plus the state isn't made up of a lot more democrats even though they've voted that way in the past 4 elections.I'd be very surprised if Trump doesn't win Ohio also.The problem for Trump is that some states that normally vote Republican may end up blue (like Arizona). It's going to be much closer than you all are making it seem. The smartest thing Trump can do is name Kasich his vp. Kasich is very moderate, and would help Trump get Ohio and some other potential swing states.
What amazes me is that we have a country filled with millions of people, and these are the two candidates were left with, even three with Bernie the socialist. The unfavorability factor in this election is staggering. We need some sort of compromise in this country. Every democrat I've spoken to hated Bush and every republican hates Obama. It seems like every candidate is so far to the left or so far to the right. Obama has put forth no effort to compromise and neither have the republicans for the past 8 years. Everyone appears to be moving further and further away from the middle and it's causing extreme tension among this country. You have trump supporters who are perfectly ok with the "ban muslims" comment Trump made and you have liberal protestors bashing cop cars because they disagree with those statements. It's honestly out of control. This election is going be very ugly but very entertaining
I think one thing is for certain.... This cannot be the best we can do as a country. These 2? Really? These are the two best candidates to run our nation?
Hillary couldn't beat an unknown/unqualified 1st term Senator in 2008. 8 years more corrupt and old, I don't see her motivating people to vote for her in 2016.
In a law abiding country, she would've been indicted long ago. I'm amazed the dems had no one else to run but her? Corrupt to the core, elitist, Ms. 6-figure Speech, failed SOS, hows the Arab Spring & Russian reset working out? That's the best they could was put up an old incompetent hag?
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Hillary couldn't beat an unknown/unqualified 1st term Senator in 2008. 8 years more corrupt and old, I don't see her motivating people to vote for her in 2016.
In a law abiding country, she would've been indicted long ago. I'm amazed the dems had no one else to run but her? Corrupt to the core, elitist, Ms. 6-figure Speech, failed SOS, hows the Arab Spring & Russian reset working out? That's the best they could was put up an old incompetent hag?
I've read and heard a lot of things and I hope more Republicans are listening more to Bernie rather than dismissing him. The reason why they should be doing that is because even the Democratic cheerleaders, the ones who are considered pundits or mavens or whatever believe that the next candidate to be nominated by the Democrats is extremely likely to be more liberal than Hillary. Therefore, that candidate is probably going to be closer to Bernie Sanders in term of policy and less than Hillary Clinton.
There's not much to really discuss for the general election other than Hillary doing poorly with independents and Trump doing poorly with women. I also think it really hurts Trump that he's not a good debater while Hillary is a strong one. People are clearly deluding themselves if they think Trump is going to smoke Hillary in the debates. If I'm considering this to be analogous to a sporting contest, which I do, then this is a complete mismatch. Trump is going to have to impress me a hell of a lot more than he did in the Republican debates.
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I've read and heard a lot of things and I hope more Republicans are listening more to Bernie rather than dismissing him. The reason why they should be doing that is because even the Democratic cheerleaders, the ones who are considered pundits or mavens or whatever believe that the next candidate to be nominated by the Democrats is extremely likely to be more liberal than Hillary. Therefore, that candidate is probably going to be closer to Bernie Sanders in term of policy and less than Hillary Clinton.
There's not much to really discuss for the general election other than Hillary doing poorly with independents and Trump doing poorly with women. I also think it really hurts Trump that he's not a good debater while Hillary is a strong one. People are clearly deluding themselves if they think Trump is going to smoke Hillary in the debates. If I'm considering this to be analogous to a sporting contest, which I do, then this is a complete mismatch. Trump is going to have to impress me a hell of a lot more than he did in the Republican debates.
I've read and heard a lot of things and I hope more Republicans are listening more to Bernie rather than dismissing him. The reason why they should be doing that is because even the Democratic cheerleaders, the ones who are considered pundits or mavens or whatever believe that the next candidate to be nominated by the Democrats is extremely likely to be more liberal than Hillary. Therefore, that candidate is probably going to be closer to Bernie Sanders in term of policy and less than Hillary Clinton.
There's not much to really discuss for the general election other than Hillary doing poorly with independents and Trump doing poorly with women. I also think it really hurts Trump that he's not a good debater while Hillary is a strong one. People are clearly deluding themselves if they think Trump is going to smoke Hillary in the debates. If I'm considering this to be analogous to a sporting contest, which I do, then this is a complete mismatch. Trump is going to have to impress me a hell of a lot more than he did in the Republican debates.
Trump completely trolled the GOP and destroyed them by splintering the party and sending them into complete Shambles and obliterated the current GOP's of this generation.
But he did this by name calling, personal attacks like on cruzs wife. So if he can troll Hillary into having a meltdown and having her go over the edge he might be able to play her like a fiddle
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Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:
I've read and heard a lot of things and I hope more Republicans are listening more to Bernie rather than dismissing him. The reason why they should be doing that is because even the Democratic cheerleaders, the ones who are considered pundits or mavens or whatever believe that the next candidate to be nominated by the Democrats is extremely likely to be more liberal than Hillary. Therefore, that candidate is probably going to be closer to Bernie Sanders in term of policy and less than Hillary Clinton.
There's not much to really discuss for the general election other than Hillary doing poorly with independents and Trump doing poorly with women. I also think it really hurts Trump that he's not a good debater while Hillary is a strong one. People are clearly deluding themselves if they think Trump is going to smoke Hillary in the debates. If I'm considering this to be analogous to a sporting contest, which I do, then this is a complete mismatch. Trump is going to have to impress me a hell of a lot more than he did in the Republican debates.
Trump completely trolled the GOP and destroyed them by splintering the party and sending them into complete Shambles and obliterated the current GOP's of this generation.
But he did this by name calling, personal attacks like on cruzs wife. So if he can troll Hillary into having a meltdown and having her go over the edge he might be able to play her like a fiddle
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You said your daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on 9-11. You're disgusting and a liar Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You were never under sniper fire in Bosnia, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton, a YouTube video isn't to blame for the Benghazi terrorist attack, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's sickening that you actually told the families of the victims of Benghazi that the attacks were about a YouTube video. That's just sickening Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's absolutely disgusting that you accuse the families of the victims of Benghazi to be liars, when you are the liar Mrs. Clinton.
Mrs. Clinton did you defend a man who raped a 12 year old girl? Did you negotiate a plea deal for the rapist that sentenced him to just one year in county jail and four years of probation when he should’ve gotten a 30 to life sentence? Did you laugh about the convicted rapist passing a polygraph, Mrs. Clinton? How is that being pro women, Mrs. Clinton? You should be ashamed of yourself, Mrs. Clinton. I won’t let people who rape 12 year old's get away with such an act under my presidency, Mrs. Clinton. I though you were pro-women? Letting 12 year old girls victims get away with rape is pro women, Mrs' Clinton?
Mrs. Clinton you’re not only dangerous for women. Your ability to lie so arrogantly puts us all in danger, Mrs. Clinton.
I wish I was a Trump advisor. I’d help Trump destroy Clinton. Trump should over talk Hillary every time she opens her mouth with these styles of attacks. I’d advise him to interrupt her every chance he got by using these attacks. She’d walk off the stage humiliated.
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This is what Trump should use during the debates.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You said your daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on 9-11. You're disgusting and a liar Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You were never under sniper fire in Bosnia, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton, a YouTube video isn't to blame for the Benghazi terrorist attack, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's sickening that you actually told the families of the victims of Benghazi that the attacks were about a YouTube video. That's just sickening Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's absolutely disgusting that you accuse the families of the victims of Benghazi to be liars, when you are the liar Mrs. Clinton.
Mrs. Clinton did you defend a man who raped a 12 year old girl? Did you negotiate a plea deal for the rapist that sentenced him to just one year in county jail and four years of probation when he should’ve gotten a 30 to life sentence? Did you laugh about the convicted rapist passing a polygraph, Mrs. Clinton? How is that being pro women, Mrs. Clinton? You should be ashamed of yourself, Mrs. Clinton. I won’t let people who rape 12 year old's get away with such an act under my presidency, Mrs. Clinton. I though you were pro-women? Letting 12 year old girls victims get away with rape is pro women, Mrs' Clinton?
Mrs. Clinton you’re not only dangerous for women. Your ability to lie so arrogantly puts us all in danger, Mrs. Clinton.
I wish I was a Trump advisor. I’d help Trump destroy Clinton. Trump should over talk Hillary every time she opens her mouth with these styles of attacks. I’d advise him to interrupt her every chance he got by using these attacks. She’d walk off the stage humiliated.
I wish I was a Trump advisor. I’d help Trump destroy Clinton. Trump should over talk Hillary every time she opens her mouth with these styles of attacks. I’d advise him to interrupt her every chance he got by using these attacks. She’d walk off the stage humiliated.
Go point ...and this tactic worked for Joe Biden in the 2012 debate with Paul Ryan .. engage and engage and engage and attack and attack and attack.. Joe Biden interrupted Ryan at least 85 times... constantly smiling, laughing and interrupting..
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
I wish I was a Trump advisor. I’d help Trump destroy Clinton. Trump should over talk Hillary every time she opens her mouth with these styles of attacks. I’d advise him to interrupt her every chance he got by using these attacks. She’d walk off the stage humiliated.
Go point ...and this tactic worked for Joe Biden in the 2012 debate with Paul Ryan .. engage and engage and engage and attack and attack and attack.. Joe Biden interrupted Ryan at least 85 times... constantly smiling, laughing and interrupting..
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You said your daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on 9-11. You're disgusting and a liar Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You were never under sniper fire in Bosnia, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton, a YouTube video isn't to blame for the Benghazi terrorist attack, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's sickening that you actually told the families of the victims of Benghazi that the attacks were about a YouTube video. That's just sickening Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's absolutely disgusting that you accuse the families of the victims of Benghazi to be liars, when you are the liar Mrs. Clinton.
Mrs. Clinton did you defend a man who raped a 12 year old girl? Did you negotiate a plea deal for the rapist that sentenced him to just one year in county jail and four years of probation when he should’ve gotten a 30 to life sentence? Did you laugh about the convicted rapist passing a polygraph, Mrs. Clinton? How is that being pro women, Mrs. Clinton? You should be ashamed of yourself, Mrs. Clinton. I won’t let people who rape 12 year old's get away with such an act under my presidency, Mrs. Clinton. I though you were pro-women? Letting 12 year old girls victims get away with rape is pro women, Mrs' Clinton?
Mrs. Clinton you’re not only dangerous for women. Your ability to lie so arrogantly puts us all in danger, Mrs. Clinton.
I wish I was a Trump advisor. I’d help Trump destroy Clinton. Trump should over talk Hillary every time she opens her mouth with these styles of attacks. I’d advise him to interrupt her every chance he got by using these attacks. She’d walk off the stage humiliated.
Relax dude! (see what I did there)
You should be the advisor to Trump. I love that idea. At what point are you going to have him discuss how 911 was in inside job by Bush and Israel.
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
This is what Trump should use during the debates.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You said your daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on 9-11. You're disgusting and a liar Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. You were never under sniper fire in Bosnia, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton, a YouTube video isn't to blame for the Benghazi terrorist attack, Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's sickening that you actually told the families of the victims of Benghazi that the attacks were about a YouTube video. That's just sickening Mrs. Clinton.
You're such a liar Mrs. Clinton. It's absolutely disgusting that you accuse the families of the victims of Benghazi to be liars, when you are the liar Mrs. Clinton.
Mrs. Clinton did you defend a man who raped a 12 year old girl? Did you negotiate a plea deal for the rapist that sentenced him to just one year in county jail and four years of probation when he should’ve gotten a 30 to life sentence? Did you laugh about the convicted rapist passing a polygraph, Mrs. Clinton? How is that being pro women, Mrs. Clinton? You should be ashamed of yourself, Mrs. Clinton. I won’t let people who rape 12 year old's get away with such an act under my presidency, Mrs. Clinton. I though you were pro-women? Letting 12 year old girls victims get away with rape is pro women, Mrs' Clinton?
Mrs. Clinton you’re not only dangerous for women. Your ability to lie so arrogantly puts us all in danger, Mrs. Clinton.
I wish I was a Trump advisor. I’d help Trump destroy Clinton. Trump should over talk Hillary every time she opens her mouth with these styles of attacks. I’d advise him to interrupt her every chance he got by using these attacks. She’d walk off the stage humiliated.
Relax dude! (see what I did there)
You should be the advisor to Trump. I love that idea. At what point are you going to have him discuss how 911 was in inside job by Bush and Israel.
Vanzack,I'm not here to shoot down your very thoughtful handicapping of the 2016 election and the winner..just giving my view ...and you are correct the math isn't their for Trump..
The way I see it is... your capping of the electoral map for this election is what would have worked in the past..but this year everything is turned upside down..the old reliable math and playbook might not work this time..
..e.g. Just five months ago Nate Silver, who correctly predicted the election results of all 50 states in 201 said...
“I don’t think his (Trumps) chances are zero. You have to be very careful about
saying they’re zero, but I think they’re lower than 20 or 25 percent,”..... “Maybe they’re 10 percent. Maybe they’re 8 percent. I’m not
sure, somewhere in that range. You’ve never had a candidate like Donald
Trump win a nomination before, at least not in the modern era, which is
1972 or so onward, which is when people started voting in primaries and
caucuses.”
What I'm saying is.... this year could be an anomaly in the modern era ..a deviation from the common rule...and as in all rules ..they are made to be broken..
Either way ..,however it turns out ..Good Luck..
Can you teach your fellow righties how to debate like this?
You really bring up the most valid argument that if Trump can be the nominee,really anything is possible.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Vanzack,I'm not here to shoot down your very thoughtful handicapping of the 2016 election and the winner..just giving my view ...and you are correct the math isn't their for Trump..
The way I see it is... your capping of the electoral map for this election is what would have worked in the past..but this year everything is turned upside down..the old reliable math and playbook might not work this time..
..e.g. Just five months ago Nate Silver, who correctly predicted the election results of all 50 states in 201 said...
“I don’t think his (Trumps) chances are zero. You have to be very careful about
saying they’re zero, but I think they’re lower than 20 or 25 percent,”..... “Maybe they’re 10 percent. Maybe they’re 8 percent. I’m not
sure, somewhere in that range. You’ve never had a candidate like Donald
Trump win a nomination before, at least not in the modern era, which is
1972 or so onward, which is when people started voting in primaries and
caucuses.”
What I'm saying is.... this year could be an anomaly in the modern era ..a deviation from the common rule...and as in all rules ..they are made to be broken..
Either way ..,however it turns out ..Good Luck..
Can you teach your fellow righties how to debate like this?
You really bring up the most valid argument that if Trump can be the nominee,really anything is possible.
Go point ...and this tactic worked for Joe Biden in the 2012 debate with Paul Ryan .. engage and engage and engage and attack and attack and attack.. Joe Biden interrupted Ryan at least 85 times... constantly smiling, laughing and interrupting..
There’s so much on the line. Trump has to take the gloves off and throw political discourse out the window. This is the most important election in American history. The entire fate of the United States is on the line. If Hillary is elected, the United States will fall like Rome.
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:
Go point ...and this tactic worked for Joe Biden in the 2012 debate with Paul Ryan .. engage and engage and engage and attack and attack and attack.. Joe Biden interrupted Ryan at least 85 times... constantly smiling, laughing and interrupting..
There’s so much on the line. Trump has to take the gloves off and throw political discourse out the window. This is the most important election in American history. The entire fate of the United States is on the line. If Hillary is elected, the United States will fall like Rome.
There’s so much on the line. Trump has to take the gloves off and throw political discourse out the window. This is the most important election in American history. The entire fate of the United States is on the line. If Hillary is elected, the United States will fall like Rome.
Well, do you mean socially or economically? Her economic policies aren't really going to be that different from Obama other than pushing for minimum wage to be increased to $12 and paid medical and family leave. It's true that wages aren't growing at the rate they're supposed to but the private sector growth keeps continuing. Isn't that a cornerstone of keeping things intact?
Trump proposed defaulting on the U.S. debt, which would keep investors away from buying bonds. How in the hell could that be a good thing?
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
There’s so much on the line. Trump has to take the gloves off and throw political discourse out the window. This is the most important election in American history. The entire fate of the United States is on the line. If Hillary is elected, the United States will fall like Rome.
Well, do you mean socially or economically? Her economic policies aren't really going to be that different from Obama other than pushing for minimum wage to be increased to $12 and paid medical and family leave. It's true that wages aren't growing at the rate they're supposed to but the private sector growth keeps continuing. Isn't that a cornerstone of keeping things intact?
Trump proposed defaulting on the U.S. debt, which would keep investors away from buying bonds. How in the hell could that be a good thing?
Heritage Sports has a 2016 Presidential election party line:Democratic -290Republican +190I don't know how to compute the player disadvantage, but that is a lot of vigorish.
I will have lost some respect for a fine man if he so chooses not to run as an independent and 3rd party alternative. He should authenticate our struggle by going to the end. No such thing as spoiler. Cmon Bern, don't abandon our struggle for equality and social justice. !Viva la revolucion!
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
Heritage Sports has a 2016 Presidential election party line:Democratic -290Republican +190I don't know how to compute the player disadvantage, but that is a lot of vigorish.
I will have lost some respect for a fine man if he so chooses not to run as an independent and 3rd party alternative. He should authenticate our struggle by going to the end. No such thing as spoiler. Cmon Bern, don't abandon our struggle for equality and social justice. !Viva la revolucion!
Great info. I can not put my money on somebody who 'could' be indicted. She is a felon and a criminal. She is protected by the Left.
Yeah great betting advice eh? -300 Still has an opponent in the race with a path to nomination. Currently Nader FBI investigation with an imminent decision that could lead to charges. Lower vote totals than she got in 2008. Facing a Republican who will outdraw Ronald Reagan in turnout. Oh, and he has no wager on it either. You fellas decide.....
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Great info. I can not put my money on somebody who 'could' be indicted. She is a felon and a criminal. She is protected by the Left.
Yeah great betting advice eh? -300 Still has an opponent in the race with a path to nomination. Currently Nader FBI investigation with an imminent decision that could lead to charges. Lower vote totals than she got in 2008. Facing a Republican who will outdraw Ronald Reagan in turnout. Oh, and he has no wager on it either. You fellas decide.....
The owner of a building is allowed to demo his own building if it is too old anyway. It just looks suspicious that he is an unapologetic Zionist and MAJOR supporter f both Bush and Israel. He just chose a bad day to do it, but at the time it seemed like the best day. Cmon fellas. If you question official reports we will become conspiracy theorists and lunatics. You can trust Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld! Now get over it! The Arab world is so much better off now since 09-11-01. It is safer for Israel. Don't question official reports. They know what's best for you! OBEY! Conspiracy nuts!
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How did building 7 go down all by itself on 9/11
The owner of a building is allowed to demo his own building if it is too old anyway. It just looks suspicious that he is an unapologetic Zionist and MAJOR supporter f both Bush and Israel. He just chose a bad day to do it, but at the time it seemed like the best day. Cmon fellas. If you question official reports we will become conspiracy theorists and lunatics. You can trust Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld! Now get over it! The Arab world is so much better off now since 09-11-01. It is safer for Israel. Don't question official reports. They know what's best for you! OBEY! Conspiracy nuts!
Well, do you mean socially or economically? Her economic policies aren't really going to be that different from Obama other than pushing for minimum wage to be increased to $12 and paid medical and family leave. It's true that wages aren't growing at the rate they're supposed to but the private sector growth keeps continuing. Isn't that a cornerstone of keeping things intact?
Trump proposed defaulting on the U.S. debt, which would keep investors away from buying bonds. How in the hell could that be a good thing?
I don't really get this minimum wage issue. Have these democratic candidates never taken an economics course. When raise the minimum wage to $15/hr from around 8$ your almost doubling minimum wage. Where do they think this money is going to come from. Companies have margins. In order to cover ttheir rising labor cost they're going to do 1 of 2 things. Raise the prices of their products or service, or lay off employees. The money to cover the rise in wages isn't going to appear out of thin air. So a company like McDonald's will go towards the kiosk route like Sheetz to reduce their labor force. So all these people complaining about their pay will end up losing their jobs. OR.. McDonald's is going to raise the prices of all their food and the lower class (the one's who are probably making minimum wage) won't be able to afford these products now. McDonald's is just one example. I'm just kinda confused how they think this is going to be a good thing for the lower class. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Well, do you mean socially or economically? Her economic policies aren't really going to be that different from Obama other than pushing for minimum wage to be increased to $12 and paid medical and family leave. It's true that wages aren't growing at the rate they're supposed to but the private sector growth keeps continuing. Isn't that a cornerstone of keeping things intact?
Trump proposed defaulting on the U.S. debt, which would keep investors away from buying bonds. How in the hell could that be a good thing?
I don't really get this minimum wage issue. Have these democratic candidates never taken an economics course. When raise the minimum wage to $15/hr from around 8$ your almost doubling minimum wage. Where do they think this money is going to come from. Companies have margins. In order to cover ttheir rising labor cost they're going to do 1 of 2 things. Raise the prices of their products or service, or lay off employees. The money to cover the rise in wages isn't going to appear out of thin air. So a company like McDonald's will go towards the kiosk route like Sheetz to reduce their labor force. So all these people complaining about their pay will end up losing their jobs. OR.. McDonald's is going to raise the prices of all their food and the lower class (the one's who are probably making minimum wage) won't be able to afford these products now. McDonald's is just one example. I'm just kinda confused how they think this is going to be a good thing for the lower class. Maybe I'm missing something.
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