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The man puts up at 50:1 speculative future bet, and you guys respond by telling him that it's not likely to win? Obviously not or it wouldn't be +5000 in the first place. And it's probably safe to assume that these are small bets, maybe 0.1 units or so, who knows. Let's say you do a few of these +5000 bets per year, you can be profitable getting one right every 10-15 years. The question is whether or not the true odds are better than this. I'd say in this case the answer is clearly yes. Lock had a strong finish to last season, then his organization went to work adding important pieces to the offense, including speedy WRs with their first 2 draft picks to go along with Courtland Sutton. They also added Melvin Gordon in FA to pair up with Phillip Lindsay, as well as shoring up some depth issues at OL and TE.

Perhaps most importantly, though, the Broncos brought in a new OC in Pat Shurmur, who has a long and successful record as a coordinator or bringing out the best in young QBs. The first of these was Donovan McNabb, who developed into a better pocket passer than most expected him to be coming out of college. He then headed to St. Louis to coach Sam Bradford in his excellent rookie season. Shurmur kinda lost his way in Cleveland with Holmgren at the helm and Brandon Weeden taking snaps, but then he went back to Philly and coached Nick Foles to his famous 27 TD, 2 INT season. Then onto Minnesota, where he squeezed every last drop of ability out of Case Keenum during the Minneapolis Miracle season in which the Vikings went 13-3. Keenum was actually the 3rd stringer that year, but first Teddy Bridgewater went down in training camp, then Sam Bradford was traded for just a few days later and a had a remarkable 2016. Keenum was an afterthought going into 2017 but actually led the Vikings to top 3 in most scoring was never that good before or after his one year with Shurmur, who was really only there to work again with Sam Bradford until his season ended in week 1 with a bad ankle. After a few years as head coach of the Giants, he's back doing what he does best, in charge of offense and of the development of a 2nd-year QB.

Just for fun, I looked up last year's winner and whatever odds I could find posted for him, which varied from +1000 to +4000. (can any of you name the player without checking?).These were just google results, nothing official from the books. As I said, it's hard to tell where the odds were listed, and at what time during the preseason, as books don't tend to keep these histories around, especially not on futures bets, but I found some interesting stuff. Listed in order, without names, are the top 10 QBs in terms of passing yards at the end of the 2019 season. Different books had different prices at different times during the offseason the numbers vary wildly (shop around!).

1st - +2300/+1500/+4000

2nd - +900/+10000 (not a typo, maybe injury or hold out or something else?)

3rd - +2300/+1200

4th - +1100/+2000/+2500

5th - +500/+450/+800

6th - +1600/+7500

7th - +1600/+800

8th - +5000/+3300

9th - +2000/+2000

10th - +360/+450/+600 (preseason favorite lol)

I'm sure you can all operate your google boxes to reveal who's who once you're ready.

Do what you want with this info, but I'd say this looks like a tasty opportunity. Thanks ckattar8.

Listen assh@t, the burden of proof is on you. You're the one claiming something far-fetched, so you have a prove it, not us. 

Proof, by the way, is not 'the defender didn't tackle the guy with the ball' or 'lots of games come down to the final minute' (or, what is really going on the heads of the tall babies who believe this stuff, 'i lost my bet').

It is impossible to prove a negative, this is a fundamental truth in logic. You don't know this because you have the mind of a 3-year-old. (I may perhaps have rounded up.)

Now, nobody cares if you believe something ridiculous to be true. I have no doubt that you believe in chemtrails, that the moon landing was faked, Sandy Hook didn't happen, etc. But, the adults around here are busy talking, so you need to run along. Maybe go read about how the coronavirus was created in a biological warfare lab or something. 

Nobody around here values your input, so please get fvcked.